GM going out of business ?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

    Or is it going to get bailed out again?

    For all the Tesla haters, it should be pointed out that the ev company's free cash flow is $2.5B in 2021, while GM has been free cash flow negative since 2014, (2021 is -$12B) yet still posting positive earnings per share. How is that possible? Who is buying their unsecured notes? Also, GM is projecting 15% EV sales by 2025, that's 300k cars based on their current sales figures of about 2 million cars (half what they were 20 years ago).

    As the market collapses, maybe shorting GM is the best trading strategy?
     
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  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    GM is retooling. That hurts fcf but not earnings as that expenditure is capitalized.
     
  3. %%
    52 week GM chart looks pretty good \\ 6 month looks pretty bearish:D:D
     
  4. Who is buying their unsecured notes?

    I could be wrong, but didn't the bond holders get screwed during the last bankruptcy? Something to do with them not getting priority in line as a debtor should because someone ruled otherwise. That's got to be the ultimate burn for a bond-holder.
     
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  5. bone

    bone

    The GM 5 Year Credit Default Swaps pricing has been really stable for the past several months.
     
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  6. TazTheLaz

    TazTheLaz

    Where do you get that information? Aren't OTC derivatives kept secret?
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2022
  7. TazTheLaz

    TazTheLaz

    It seems that possibly the EV virtue signaling by GM was for the purpose of getting more corporate bond buyers and BlackRock money?
     
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  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    what are you smoking OP?
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  9. VicBee

    VicBee

  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    to drive the point home
     
    #10     Jan 23, 2022
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