Official: End of ICE cars in EU from 2035

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by VicBee, Jun 29, 2022.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

  2. cesfx

    cesfx

    Typical governments action....
    Either too little too late, or too much too late.
    Incompetence is skill n2 for a politician.
    Skill n1 is corruptibility.
     
  3. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    End of of new ICE cars.
    Given cars last 20+ years.
    They still going to be around in 2050, although not very many.
     
  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    Not really, because gas stations will be hard to find and gas will be very expensive. All incentives to switch. Of course the wealthiest will continue to run ICE vehicles because they can, at least in the US and other developing nations.
     
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    I don't think so. I think we will get higher efficiency from batteries and from natural energy harvesting. Small nuclear generating plants may become popular if we can safeguard them from crazies.
    As we discussed many times before, the transition from a heavy polluting yesterday to tomorrow's clean energy isn't going as fast as some want or is going too fast for others, but the change is irreversible.
     
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    Clean can never replace fossils completely. The green energy blowhards need to realize that they must be complimentary, not supplementary. We will NEVER get rid of the dinosaurs 100 percent until fusion energy is invented/discovered. And that is HUNDREDS of years in the future, if ever. Don't kid yourself.
     
  8. tango29

    tango29

    I guess I just don't get it, no one has the infrastructure in place to support this idea, and highly unlikely that they will well past 2035. Various states have utility companies warning about brown outs and rolling blackouts currently, now add a mostly electric car fleet to the grid and what, they magically come up with the power to charge?
    Again, why not go with hybrids first and work the way to all electric if electric is the chosen option? Maybe in the meantime they can come up with a better battery concept than what is being used now.
     
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  9. VicBee

    VicBee

    The problem with these heavily polluting fossil energies is their industry need volume production to make a buck. We only need to look at 2020 when COVID hit; suddenly there was a drop in demand and oil fell to under $30/barrel.
    Vehicles consume around 70% of oil production, and EU 2035 will mean at least a 75% drop in demand that won't be diverted elsewhere. Only the most efficient oil extraction will survive to supply a dwindling market of hardcore users willing to pay a high premium to power their ice vehicle, including the world militaries.
    It's quite possible than in a not so distant future, gas will only be available through wholesale outlets, with small fuel trucks delivering directly to consumers. Gas stations are not immune to the laws of supply and demand and will shut down one by one, unless state governments dictate and subsidize a certain number to stay open for the hardcore rebels with no cause.
     
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    And it all comes down to this. Right from Downing Street. Here's all the brilliance you need on why it will not work in the next 50 years.

     
    #10     Jun 30, 2022
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