Retired, 450k fun money, lets see what happens - SPY Options

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Wise Old Man, Nov 13, 2020.

Will I be successful and outperform the S&P 500?

  1. Yes

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  2. Not a chance

    66.0%
  1. I've been waiting for this day for a long time. After 40 years work, I threw in the towel to enjoy retirement. I've got a nice 450k saved in my roth 401k that is being rolled into a roth ira to mess around with. I'm okay with direct market exposure as I have more than enough savings and passive income from real estate to pay my bills.

    As soon as the funds clear, I'll be running the wheel on SPY. I've never made one of these journals before... hell I've never even traded this strategy before but my goal is to outperform the S&P 500. I'll be selling very short term premium at a specified price hoping for an assignment.

    Funds are set to clear next week. More soon to come...
     
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  2. wartrace

    wartrace

    PLEASE START OUT SMALL. No need to go all in even if it's "fun money". If you are just looking for fun do one or two options at a time until you get a feel for it. Scale up when you have a track record.
     
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  3. good luck - I hope you do well and have some fun along the way
     
  4. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    Good advice. Keep the 'educational fee' as small as possible while still being emotionally meaningful.
     
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  5. I am in the same shoes except I did it at age 62, 2 years ago. I had my funds at Vanguard but their trading platform sucks and I lost a few bucks with covered calls on the July mini-crash. Then I moved to TDAmeritrade and now I am with Schwab and IB, managing our Family Trust. I had my ups and downs, but at this point, I am hedging my portfolio with options and inverse ETFs.
    Start small and have a plan, and be ready and prepared to change your plan...
     
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  6. ZBZB

    ZBZB

    If you are operating the wheel, triple income strategy, then you do not want to be assigned. You want to just collect put premium indefinitely. If you are assigned then you may be offside for years during a bear market as you sell calls to get your money back. The wheel is a bullish strategy.
     
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  7. TimMykes

    TimMykes

    Where ya been all this time . I've been waiting for decades to be able to follow your trades
     
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  8. I am confused; the wheel assumes assignment and instant calling away (weekly options). Are you saying cover the puts before they are exercised? Then it is not the wheel. Otherwise, I see your point. Even in a bear market, stocks can advance to be called away...granted one has to be a decent stock picker.
     
  9. ZBZB

    ZBZB

    It is a bullish strategy. Why do you want to be assigned? The market may go down for years.
     
  10. JSOP

    JSOP

    If you are going to be doing SPY options, you might as well doing SPX options. Higher premiums, no pin risk, no assignment risk. Everything cash settlement, what you win/lose is what you get.
     
    #10     Nov 13, 2020