Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas

Discussion in 'Politics' started by themickey, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Well obviously -- as you switch the subject again -- you have conceded the point that Jews have been in Israel since they very beginning of written history.

    Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East. Over 18% of the population of Israel are Muslim and can vote. The Knesset has included Arab members since the first election in 1949.

    Certainly, Settlers taking land in the West Bank supported by the current right-wing Netanyahu government is not a good thing and will need to be undone for any possible two-state solution.

    The Jews in Israel were willing to live in peace and share the land. However the Arab countries surrounding Israel attempted to wipe them off the face of the earth. This is how we arrived at the situation the region is in today.
     
    #5531     Jun 16, 2025
  2. themickey

    themickey

    Yeah, you make me laugh again.
    The bs Torah and bs Bible deceive their sheeple into believing civilization in the world began about the time of Noah.
    There were empires in the ME region +20 centuries BC while Noah according to the Jews was a single family in 2350 BC.
    Then the Jews want to apparently claim they were the sole inhabitants.
     
    #5532     Jun 16, 2025
  3. themickey

    themickey

    FOS again. Jews didn't invent written language.
     
    #5533     Jun 16, 2025
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I never stated that Jews invented written language. Written language was used by many cultures in that region way back in time.

    The point that I was making was that many of the surrounding cultures documented the existence of Jews in the Israel/Judea region way back in time. Everything from tax collection records, population censuses, and trade records.

    Jews never stated they were the sole inhabitants of the region. In fact the old testament documents the wars and interactions of Jews with many other inhabitants of the region. Plus all the other documentation (Talmud, etc.).
     
    #5534     Jun 16, 2025
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Yaaaaaawn....

    The Bible says that the rains that created the Noachian Flood lasted for 40 days (Genesis 7:17), that the waters prevailed on the earth for 150 days (Genesis 7:24), and after these 150 days the waters gradually receded from the earth so that by the seventh month and the seventeenth day, Noah’s Ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat (Genesis 8:4). A year plus two months and twenty seven days later the earth was dry enough so that Noah, his family, and the load of animals could disembark from the Ark (Genesis 8:14). Because this flood was intended by God to destroy all flesh on earth (Genesis 6:13)
     
    #5535     Jun 16, 2025
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    You really should have a historian who specializes in ancient history of the region explain the early books of the bible to you. Most of the text in Genesis is story-telling of the tribes where the stories were transcribed in text at a later point in time. It is a basically a written recording of stories told around campfires.

    The interesting part about the story of Noah is that other cultures in the region recorded a similar tale regarding a flood. There most likely a flood at some time in the region and different groups told stories of how they survived it -- included exaggerated fables. The reality is probably that Noah was just a farmer who build a raft and stuck all of his household goods, family and farm animals on it when the water rose -- as the stories grew around campfires it got exaggerated into the tale found in Genesis.

    Later parts of the old testament outlining the wars in the region including the Kings such as David are probably written histories transcribed at the time -- with some exaggerations thrown in to make the King seem more powerful (or Godlike). Other ancient cultures in the Mediterranean region did the same thing -- take the stories of the Pharaohs being Gods who did unbelievable things, the stories of Greek gods and the expeditions of mortals, and the Romans who declared their emperors to be gods.
     
    #5536     Jun 16, 2025
  7. themickey

    themickey

    They preach that message from the pulpits? LOL :)
    Christmas and Easter campfire stories? Well they should be but it's not how the church portrays it.
     
    #5537     Jun 17, 2025
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes Gazans... the world has moved onto the next thing and forgotten you. The outside support for the most part was nothing more than virtue signalling to drive an antisemitic narrative. The hate-the-Jews crowd never really cared about you and has now moved onto the next shiny object.

    Sadly this leaves the residents of Gaza still in a desperate situation in need of food. Hamas keeps attacking the GHF food aid sites leading to gun battles with the IDF and casualties among the civilians trying to get food. The food trucks from other organizations sent into Gaza are quickly looted either by Hamas, desperate civilians, or armed gangs. The entire situation is a fiasco -- and unfortunately nobody is paying attention anymore.

    ‘Like the world has forgotten us:’ As Iran-Israel conflict escalates, Gazans fear their suffering will become invisible
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/16/middleeast/gaza-forgotten-israel-iran-conflict-latam-intl
     
    #5538     Jun 17, 2025
  9. themickey

    themickey

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    Boy Scout Jews in Scout uniform studying campfire stories in order to gain their badges.
     
    #5539     Jun 17, 2025
  10. themickey

    themickey

    Huckabee Suggests Trump Should Nuke Iran, Follow Guidance From “Heaven”

    The evangelical pastor and ambassador to Iran told Trump he “will hear from heaven” with guidance about the war.

    By Sharon Zhang , Truthout Published June 17, 2025

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    The U.S.' new ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee holds a note given to him from President Donald Trump to be placed in the cracks of the Western Wall, the holiest site where Jews are allowed to pray, during Huckabee's visit to the holy site in the old city of Jerusalem on April 18, 2025. Gil Cohen-Magen / AFP via Getty Images


    U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee has suggested to President Donald Trump that he should use a nuclear bomb against Iran, urging Trump to listen to the voice he will “hear from heaven” and follow its guidance in making decisions about Israel’s war on Iran.

    In a post on Truth Social on Tuesday, Trump posted a screenshot of the lengthy text he says was sent to him by Huckabee, an evangelical and Christian Zionist who Trump praises as a “Great Person!”

    In the text, Huckabee says Trump’s current decision on whether or not to involve the U.S. further in attacks on Iran is akin to the decision President Harry Truman faced in 1945 — when Truman dropped two atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Japan and decimating the cities.

    Huckabee further says that he seeks not to persuade but to “encourage” Trump. “God spared you in Butler, PA to be the most consequential President in a century — maybe ever,” Huckabee writes. “No President in my lifetime has been in a position like yours. Not since Truman in 1945.”

    The rambling message is extremely ironic, considering that Huckabee is suggesting that Trump should use a nuclear bomb against Iran in a war that was started by Israel to supposedly target Iran’s nuclear weapons program, though most of the targets and casualties so far appear to be civilian.

    Huckabee also urges Trump to listen to “HIS voice,” an apparent reference to God, saying that Trump “will hear from heaven” about the issue.

    Like many evangelical Christians in the U.S., Huckabee is a Christian Zionist who subscribes to the belief that Israel must dominate Palestine in order to bring about the end-times prophecy and second coming of Jesus Christ. Christ would then rule over Israel in the new age, where all people worship Christ or get eliminated and condemned to hell.

    Some Christian Zionists have outright preached that Israel must claim dominance over enemies like Iran, who will try to destroy Israel as it pursues total control over Palestine. Huckabee has been heavily criticized for his erasure of the occupied West Bank, which he refers to as Judea and Samaria, and for saying once that there is “really no such thing as a Palestinian.”

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who has spent over a decade urging the U.S. to enter into a war with Iran, praised Huckabee’s text, saying it is “spot on.”

    “It is now time to end this terrible chapter in the Middle East and start a new chapter,” said Graham, seemingly referring to an old neo-conservative fantasy of regime change in Iran.

    The text, seeking to stoke Trump into using extreme force against Iran, comes at a fragile moment as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is openly urging Trump to attack Iran, lending Israel even more support on top of the current defensive backing from U.S. military assets.

    Similarly to Trump’s statement on Tuesday brushing aside the U.S. intelligence community’s assessment that Iran isn’t pursuing a nuclear weapon, Huckabee’s invocation of a higher purpose echoes President George W. Bush’s bizarre reasoning for starting the Iraq War. Just months after the U.S.’s invasion initially began, Bush reportedly told an Israeli-Palestinian summit that he was “driven with a mission from God.”

    It’s unclear what Trump’s next move will be. He has repeatedly said that his goal is to force Iran to capitulate on his administration’s demands for a nuclear deal. “COMPLETE SURRENDER,” he wrote on Truth Social on Tuesday.

     
    #5540     Jun 18, 2025