AI is a major innovation that has to be force fed because you'll like it or at least pay for it

Discussion in 'Artificial Intelligence' started by Aquarians, Jul 7, 2025 at 10:15 AM.

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  1. "AI gets introduced to the marketplace—by force-feeding the public. And they’re doing this for a very good reason. Most people won’t pay for AI voluntarily—just 8% according to a recent survey. So they need to bundle it with some other essential product.

    Before proceeding let me ask a simple question: Has there ever been a major innovation that helped society, but only 8% of the public would pay for it?

    That’s never happened before in human history. Everybody wanted electricity in their homes. Everybody wanted a radio. Everybody wanted a phone. Everybody wanted a refrigerator. Everybody wanted a TV set. Everybody wanted the Internet.

    They wanted it. They paid for it. They enjoyed it.

    AI isn’t like that. People distrust it or even hate it—and more so with each passing month. So the purveyors must bundle it into current offerings, and force usage that way
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    https://www.honest-broker.com/p/the-force-feeding-of-ai-on-an-unwilling
     
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  2. Or.... it's a giant bubble like the dot com boom.

    I'm old enough to remember multiple virtual reality booms when that was going to be the next big thing.

    Companies everywhere are bragging about their use of AI because they want the stupid, don't understand what they're buying, herd follower's dollar. The same people who bought pets.com

    It's going to get really interesting as all these AIs pretend to be people and all the AI companies are busy ripping off other people's copyrighted works to "train" the AI. Eventually AIs will be training off AIs, stacking "hallucinations" on top of hallucinations.

    The product is mostly garbage.
    Try this: Google "how to change the brakes on a 2010 civic"
    Their AI will give you an authoritative sounding procedure, but it's not complete. The instructors do not work and do not call out all the required tools.
    15 years ago, if I ran that search, on of the top hits would be to a forum page, written by a human, with actual correct pictures and procedure. They've made their own product worse.

    I'm surprised a new search engine hasn't popped up and eaten their lunch. A lot of the sites that pop up in searches these days are just promoted garbage.
     
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  3. Businessman

    Businessman

    Microsoft is forcing employees to use it and monitoring employee use.

    So during the employee review they will get rated on how much they use AI for work. And I guess told off for not using it enough.

    So they are forcing their own employees to use over use this technology which although often helpful for grunt work is not good enough for complex real world use cases that are not in the training set.
     
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Humankind still lacks a firm, unequivocal, undeniable definition of intelligence.

    So how can we do the same for "artificial" :confused: intelligence?

    Singularity is sil sil silly.
     
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  5. TrAndy2022

    TrAndy2022

    It will just take little bit more time. Remember on old days where internet had no flatrates and you could only read and send text messages because of the bandwith. As AI will be stronger and more prudent over time, it will have a growing base of (paid) users for sure.
     
  6. Businessman

    Businessman

    The internet is at least entertaining. (with ET being the the entertainment capital of the internet :D)

    I only use AI to help with work chores, save time with grunt work.

    It doesn't really have many entertaining use cases yet.
     
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    AI eye eye eye haha:-

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    Book on AI has AI errors
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    Springer Nature

    A new textbook on artificial intelligence appears to contain citations that were hallucinated by AI.
    Mastering Machine Learning: From Basics to Advanced was published in April by Springer Nature, one of the world’s biggest scientific publishing houses. A scientist whose work was cited by the book told Retraction Watch that the works mentioned do not exist; further investigation found that several other citations were either fake or substantially wrong. Two recent US health department reports contained apparently nonexistent references likely generated by AI, and Retraction Watch has a long list of scientific papers containing evidence of undisclosed AI use. Mastering Machine Learning notes the “important ethical questions about the use and misuse of AI-generated text.”
     
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  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    a guy in my neighborhood runs a crypto company. He laid off all the developers who wouldn’t use AI to assist in their coding. He said the productivity achievements for those who do made the others redundant.

    I don’t program a lot but where I had to budget 2 days, I can now do in 2 hours.