Bill Clinton Regrets Getting Ukraine ‘To Give Up Their Nuclear Weapons’: ‘I Feel Terrible’

Discussion in 'Politics' started by FortuneTeller, Apr 7, 2023.

  1. Good going Billy! Duh.

    Bill Clinton Regrets Getting Ukraine ‘To Give Up Their Nuclear Weapons’: ‘I Feel Terrible’ The Daily Wire

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    Former President Bill Clinton admitted in an interview Tuesday that he bears responsibility for Ukraine giving up nuclear warheads as a result of a decades-old agreement between Kyiv, the U.S., and Russia.

    The former Democratic president told RTE Prime Time that had it not been for a 1994 agreement initiated by his administration to get nuclear weapons out of Ukraine, Russia likely would not have invaded the country last February.

    “I feel a personal stake because I got them [Ukraine] to agree to give up their nuclear weapons. And none of them believe that Russia would have pulled this stunt if Ukraine still had their weapons,” Clinton said.
     
  2. Clinton is lost in space just like Biden.

    He has a strong reputation for never taking personal responsibility for all of his personal faults so tries to aggressively take responsibility for Ukraine to compensate. It is the only area that -apparently- did not involve a relationship with a bimbo so he is willing to do a mea culpa.

    Actually, working to keep soviet breakaway states from becoming nuclear powers, was a good thing not a bad thing. Ukraine was and is an unstable country/region and I have zero interest in seeing them playing the nuclear card. The deficiency is not in getting Ukraine to give up its nukes, the deficiency by dem and pub administrations is in not making Russia pay a price earlier on for threatening Ukraine. American intelligence knew that the Russians were planning to take Crimea before they had actually made a move. The President should have called Putin and said, "you take Crimea, and we will help the Ukrainians to build a full Nato-affiliated but non-member base in Kherson. Don't do it motherfucks."
     
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  3. WWarrior

    WWarrior

    It all started with Russia intervening in Syria under Obama. The democrats were gunning for Russia after that , peace was never on the cards.
     
  4. The democrats reliance on Putin in the most sensitive of issues is mindboggling. No normal person can understand it.

    Obama drew the so-called "red line in the sand" in Syria but then stood back and said "the Russians are negotiating a deal." uh, excuse, but WUT!

    And then Biden announced that the Iran Deal negotiations were back on the table and that Russia would be representing America's interests in that negotiation. Nevermind that Russia and Iran were in cahoots in undermining America to the maximum possible and that the US and Russia were already in a proxy war and sanctions were in place.



    Biden is letting Putin run the Iran nuclear talks

    It starts with a strange, little-known fact: Russia is acting as a go-between for the United States in nuclear talks with Iran.

    When I first read that, I thought it couldn’t possibly be true. With Russia then massing troops on the Ukraine border, I assumed that even the Biden White House couldn’t be foolish enough to trust Vladimir Putin to do anything in good faith or certainly anything in America’s interest.

    Unfortunately, the story was true, and even more alarming, Russia continues to direct the nuclear talks with America’s approval while its army simultaneously turns Ukraine’s cities into rubble, mercilessly killing civilians and creating the largest refugee crisis since World War II.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/12/biden-is-letting-putin-run-the-iran-nuclear-talks/
     
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  5. WWarrior

    WWarrior

    I don't trust them at all with the American people's interests - or its friends.

    Under the democrats , Usa v China trade deficit increases and Chinese investments in the US increases. Yet the Anglosphere is inching to war with China and China's threatening Australia (a US ally) . and taking over the pacific.
     
  6. mervyn

    mervyn

    not sure what your point is. neocon and neoliberal are the two side of the same coin. global domination is the the game, we have no allies, only enemies and competitors. but history is repeating itself, we just don’t read enough, and think we are somehow different this time.
     
  7. mervyn

    mervyn

    Btw, Ukrainian weapons were on the black market, if they had kept the nukes, it would have fallen into the wrong hand. We are not talking about few dozen devices, there were hundreds of not thousands, big or small. It is safer to have them gave up at the time. Agenda was different.
     
  8. Businessman

    Businessman

    In theory the could have kept back say 50 or so and given the rest back to Russia.

    Most probably they didn't want the hassle and expense of maintaining even a small stockpile.
     
  9. mervyn

    mervyn

    no, my recollection was that at the time, Ukrainian was not on the side of US, it was in Slavic block, no expectation joining west. There was a bigger east germany question. If there is any regret, is probably shouldn’t push all smaller countries joining nato, now we can see nato is nothing super and unwilling to fight, everyone is running low on gears, and high tech wars are expensive, no one can afford it, back to trench warfare.
     
  10. WWarrior

    WWarrior

    My point is the Democrats are helping China expand while pretending to be hawkish . And China are becoming more threatening.
     
    #10     Apr 9, 2023