Credit default swaps

Discussion in 'Options' started by ferrycorsten, Jun 4, 2014.

  1. Has anyone traded these? Are they accessible to retail?
     
  2. xandman

    xandman

    A bank's structured desk probably won't take calls from an individual unless you are Warren Buffet. Even if you were, you would have a team of brilliant guys conspiring to rob you.

    The CME has been trying to get a sliver of the market for over a two decades by offering itself as a clearinghouse to remove counterparty risk. I think you have to be backed by an Investment Bank for this.

    http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/cme-direct/
     
  3. The problem with mega-mogul people is that they are the "private banks to these banks" : example Warren Buffet lending money to Goldman Sachs during the crisis. So I wonder who will "robbing who". :confused:
     
  4. spec77

    spec77

  5. xandman

    xandman

  6. There are only the indices, nothing on SN.
     
  7. xandman

    xandman

    How would you go short a bubble in high yield bonds?
     
  8. sle

    sle

    Short HYG or buy puts on it.
     
  9. scr12

    scr12

    High yield bonds are highly correlated to equities. Investor could also have reduced or short exposure to SPY or IWM, instead of CDS
     
  10. xandman

    xandman

    I have generally stayed away from High Yield investing because it fuzzies my allocations.

    However, I have recently seen hedge fund industry reports of High Yield and Convt Arb to produce Sharpe ratios of 4.0-6.0. Obviously, their edge is from 144A Private Placements. Or maybe, holdings that are valued a little bit more conservatively than mtm?..Not sure.

    Still, it would be a nice place to lever up a trading strategy if you can even produce 1/2 to 1/3 that Sharpe. The tight yield spreads look really scary though.
     
    #10     Jun 5, 2014