I just sent a few AIs a task to plot a regular chart for an options strategy. The code had to be produced in typescript so they couldn't copy it from anywhere. No Python allowed, they tried really hard to push me into that shit language but I kept asking for the code in typescript. Gemini hallucinated like it was on some sort of drug that I don't know. ChatGPT gave me a piece of shit for three times, then the fourth time asked me to pay. I went to purchase a subscription for Cursor AI, to use Claude Sonnet 3.7. That shit hallucinated like there is no tomorrow and I even paid for it. It gave me that amount of rubbish that it made me unsubscribe. And then tried Deepseek, like I wasn't hoping for anything. And it blew my mind in 5 minutes, it not only gave me the right answer, but it also laid a full project structure for a project with webpack and typescript to plot the result with chart.js. Then it went to lay out tests for the calculations. It was producing code for literally 10 minutes non-stop. It didn't stop there, it gave me full styles for the chart to produce the picture below: That is a calendar spread, payoff at expiration, and at current times. If you want to laugh try it yourself, you are going to see how the famous AIs hallucinate. Deepseek guys, if you want the hardcode stuff go there.
Maybe because Deepseek was developed by Hedge funders, it has been trained on more trading stuff? When any of these LLM models match something in their training set they look very impressive, otherwise they look like trash..
was it developed by funders? That would make a lot of sense. I didn't know that Indeed it was. This is the main guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liang_Wenfeng
Exactly! That shit was so good, I even blew the whistle on it here last week, spelling out how it runs circles around the competition for a fraction of the price (and that we shouldn't automatically dismiss "Made in China" as inferior). And what did I get for my troubles? A bunch of blank stares and SMHs. If that ain't arrogance, what is it?
I kind of hate AI. Feels soulless and empty and fake. I feel like my tech brain and life is stuck in 2008... But what does all this basically mean... these AI programs can make you a million bucks in the market on auto pilot guaranteed magically with some wizard formula holy grail?
I did try to ask for the formula to conquer the world. But it doesn't have it. If it did, it wouldn't tell us anyway. What it does have is knowledge on a very specific subject if you know how to ask the question. And what I found is that every chat is a different instance of the gremlin, so if you ask something that can produce hallucinations try again in another chat and you will see the difference. There's a threshold where the AI stops thinking and that is based on server load. That limit varies from query to query. So if you know how to ask the right questions and are patient you can get something useful.
But how does AI and trading intertwine exactly though How can AI actually make a trader direct money, if possible You see these random social media videos....My AI Trading Bot made me $158,000 in a Month OMG LOL Cool
Gemini 2.5 beta produced for me a fully smooth panning, x and y axis scaling candlestick chart in C# Windows Forms that connects to Interactive Brokers and updates in real-time. Of course, not all at once but the productivity level I've gained has me interested in making this a complete personal trading solution for both discretionary (e.g. chart trading) and automated trading. I've found greater progress by asking for one thing at a time and then taking care of the edge cases by thorough testing before going on to the next request. I didn't go with Cursor. Actually, last Black Friday, I got Tabnine for $50 for 1 year. It has Claude Sonnet 3.5 (3.7 soon) among its several AI model's which has worked well for me. Lots of complaints about Cursor on Reddit lately. Some nerfing going on is the main gripe. I haven't tried DeepSeek yet. Not too excited about its point of origin. Gemini 2.5 IS impressive, for C# at least.