How not to get a voter I.D. in Wisconsin.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by piezoe, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    From the Washington Post , Sept 30, 2016. By Matt Zapotosky who covers the Justice Department for the Washington Post's National Security team.

    Let me note that Wisconsin is by no means alone in its efforts to throw up roadblocks in front of new voters.

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    U.S. District Judge James D. Peterson wrote in a two-page order that state officials must investigate whether DMV employees are instructing customers properly on the “ID Petition Process” — a system by which Wisconsinites who lack required documents, such as birth certificates, can get alternate papers that would let them vote.

    That is pivotal, because a federal appeals court has previously said its conclusion that Wisconsin’s voter ID law is constitutional depends on officials adequately implementing and informing the public about the ID Petition Process. Peterson had previously ordered reforms to the process so that it could function as a “safety net” for those who might be left unable to cast a ballot by Wisconsin’s strict ID requirement.

    [In Wisconsin, a controversial voter-ID law could help choose the president]

    A spokesman for the Wisconsin Justice Department, which has defended the voter ID law, said the agency would comply with Peterson’s order.

    The judge gave state officials until Oct. 7 to report back to the court.

    Voting rights advocates and state lawyers have sparred for years over whether Wisconsin’s voter ID law is constitutional, but until Peterson’s order Friday, it had seemed as if the landscape for the November election was largely set. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit last month ruled that voters could be required to present an ID, and they could not present an affidavit attesting to their identity instead. The appeals court said, though, its ruling rested on an assurance by state lawyers that voting credentials would be “available to all qualified persons who seek them” and that the state would not refuse to initiate the ID Petition Process.

    The appeals court left it to Peterson to monitor compliance.

    Peterson wrote that his recent order was sparked by news reports, first in the Nation and then in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, suggesting that “DMV personnel have provided incorrect information to persons who have applied for Wisconsin IDs for voting.” The news outlets detailed the experience of Zack Moore, a 34-year-old African American who is homeless and sleeping on the streets of Madison, as he went to the DMV to get an ID in September. He was accompanied by Molly McGrath, who works with the group VoteRiders to help people in Wisconsin get IDs to vote and who recorded the experience. She provided the audio of her recording to The Washington Post.

    Moore went to the DMV with an Illinois photo ID, Social Security card and a pay stub to prove his residence, but he did not have a copy of his birth certificate. Under the reforms Wisconsin officials have promised, DMV workers should have initiated the ID Petition Process — which would essentially ask Illinois to confirm Moore’s birth information — and sent him a receipt within six business days, allowing him to vote.

    But, according to the recording, one DMV employee initially told Moore he would have to go to Illinois to get his birth certificate. McGrath then intervened to inquire about the “petition process.” The employees talked with Moore about his ability to get his birth certificate, and Moore said he would try to get his sister to send it to him.

    McGrath then inquired generally about the ID petition process and was told at various points Moore wouldn’t get anything right away, and that it was unclear whether he would be able to get documentation in time to vote.

    “I’m trying to figure out the other process, like, how long would that take?” Moore asked at one point.

    “Six to eight weeks,” a DMV employee responded.

    “Whoa,” Moore responded.

    “That’s what I’m saying. If you know where your birth certificate is, it’s definitely faster to get it, you know, even if you have to drive down there and get it and come back,” the employee said.

    “It’s a much lengthier process than what people think,” he added later.

    When McGrath inquired specifically about signage in the DMV indicating, “You can get an ID to vote,” the employee responded: “You can. It just takes time.”

    “So even if we just start the petition process, he wouldn’t get anything temporarily that says you can vote,” McGrath asked.

    “No,” the employee responded.

    The DMV later noted that officials had “been saying they’re trying to speed that process up, but the thing that hinges on that whole process is how quickly the state gets back to us.”

    Peterson wrote in his ruling, “These reports, if true, demonstrate that the state is not in compliance with this court’s injunction order.” Patty Mayers, a spokeswoman for the Wisconsin Department of Transportation, said the report was “concerning and is not consistent with DMV protocol.” She said officials had already begun their own investigation before Peterson’s order.

    While it is not clear whether Moore’s experience is the exception, rather than the rule, McGrath said a VoteRiders volunteer had surveyed 10 DMVs in the state, and only three said documentation to vote could be provided within a week.

    “This is alarming, right?” McGrath said. “The safety net in the strict law isn’t working.” "

    Read the entire story here:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nsins-voter-id-system/?utm_term=.a221a8b011f5
     
  2. fhl

    fhl

    "DMV workers should have initiated the ID Petition Process — which would essentially ask Illinois to confirm Moore’s birth information — and sent him a receipt within six business days, allowing him to vote."


    The state of Illinois will probably get back to them in the six months that the guy was talking about.

    In the meantime, fraudulant democrat got his receipt and voted, even if Illinois says they never heard of the guy.

    The "ID Petition process", if this article is correct, is a scam. A scam to the benefit of fraudulant voters.
     
  3. So an activist accompanies a "homeless" man with an out of state ID who somehow has a pay stub that proves his "residence" and they encounter a friendly DMV employee, no doubt a democrat union member, who helpfully says things to substantiate their court case. Coincidence or setup?
     
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  4. Ain't it the truth. Democrats, insulting the intelligence of every thinking person on a daily basis. No I.D. = NO VOTE. Simple as that. Getting an ID ain't that difficult and if you're wandering around through life without your birth certificate I'm thinking voting isn't your highest priority until some leftist operative offers you a free drink to play along.
     
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