Jordan says most people can't think

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tuxan, Jul 19, 2025.

  1. Tuxan

    Tuxan



    This is largely true. I expect many don't even know what he means by "theatre of the imagination" as they don't create one or very rarely play Devil's-advocate before speaking. Runs at tve idea from the perspective of three different players.

    A "mind palace" or similar internal simulation takes a substantial amount of effort and practice to maintain.

    If you don't use it, you lose it like any high cognitive effort skill. Neuroplasticity literally melts away the structures not used.
     
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  2. ipatent

    ipatent

    I read once that it takes an IQ of about 115 to have an independent thought, which rings true.
     
  3. themickey

    themickey

    It pays to ask yourself when making a statement "Am I a hypocrite here, am I talking about myself".
    Because most often, when we blame others, what we don't like in them is in us.
    It seems, what we hate most in others, we carry that trait which we hate in ourselves.

    Take bullying as an example, we may hate bullys, but possible that trait runs either in ourselves or in our family.

    It's difficult/confronting to see our own hypocrisy.
     
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  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    does that explain how the maga arguments here all follow the same pattern?
     
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  5. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    An IQ of 115 might correlate with a greater likelihood of generating novel thoughts, but that doesn’t mean those below that threshold are incapable of them—it’s just rarer, slower, or perhaps less easily articulated.

    IQ tests are timed for a reason. Given enough time, most people can solve the problems. What sets higher scorers apart is the ability to solve them quickly, hold intermediate results in mind, and build on them productively. That’s more about processing efficiency than exclusivity of thought, pencil, paper and a system allows lesser minds to contribute to leading edge thinking.
     
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    Tha aborigines in Australia never invented the wheel.
    One could say an aborigine has a low IQ and sure, if placed inside Wall Street they would fail.

    If a 'whitey' from Wall street decided to go bush in Australia unaided, they would fail and our abo mate would easily survive.

    IQ is relative to your environment.
     
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  7. ipatent

    ipatent

    Neither did sub-saharan Africans.
     
  8. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    You’re illustrating the exact point the thread is about, a lack of curiosity and no effort at context. Saying that felt good to you is all.

    Sub-Saharan Africans had pottery wheels and wheeled toys, which shows the concept of the wheel was known. But widespread use of wheels wasn’t practical due to terrain, climate, and the tsetse fly problem affecting draft animals.

    You might try reading something other than 1990s race science populist trash. Start with a basic book on historical geography or technology diffusion. Or better yet, just think for five minutes, assessing if "too good to be true" is coloring your argument, before posting.

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    Paraphrasing her father there.
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Some of this comes down to what was needed for a group of people to live in their environment in context of their social structure. If a group of people lived near rivers, lakes, and seas where transport via small boat was the best mode of transport... and there was limited need to move goods inland due to low populations needing/providing goods (because the interior was desert or high mountains, etc.) then this is just a question of a people best adapting to where they live and not needing wheels. Coupled with that pack animals may have been more useful in mountainous areas, etc. Additionally there are some places where there was no need for trade because all the local communities had the same resources.
     
  10. ipatent

    ipatent

    Neither did they invent multistory buildings, or refinement of copper or iron. They were still living in the Stone Age when the early explorers found them.
     
    #10     Jul 20, 2025