Legging Out

Discussion in 'Options' started by traction, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. traction

    traction

    Advise appreciated on legging out..
    I have on AXP expiring Sep 18: Long 2 x 94C, Short 3 x 97C, Long 1 x 99C
    Closing price today was 100
     
  2. xandman

    xandman

    That is a matter of your outlook isn't it? Are you having trouble getting a fill? A liquid issue like that, you could probably trade it all easily as one spread for .15c inside the b/a within seconds.

    If not, start to break it up into verticals starting with a 97-99 cs.
     
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  3. traction

    traction

    My apologies its JPM but numbers the same.
    So you're saying its just better to take the whole trade off? Is there no way to lock in some profit and limit risk to the downside?
     
  4. xandman

    xandman

    No, just saying you can exit easily with that liquid stock ticker. Heck, if I know where AXP or JPM is going. I just want them to slow down on allocating to loan loss reserves in the medium term. It seems like you just kept layering into this trade. Just keep it consistent to your outlook for the applicable time frame, Do you want verticals or a fly? Long,short or neutral? and, by how much. Your position is evolving rapidly at these time frames. It's becoming a binary bet as gamma increases.
     
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  5. xandman

    xandman

    So, the peak profits on this position is around 97, but you will be hanging in front of an abyss to get that profit. Check the model though.

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  6. traction

    traction

    This is where its at since I put it on earlier
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  7. xandman

    xandman

    Alright then. So we have a new day.

    If the stock starts moving up, we are in a flatter profit zone. I am not sure if that maintains a satisfactory profit/loss ratio for it you. However if it pulls back further, you are more into a neutral scenario around 97 with potential theta rolling in (mostly last 2 days) but you will also have an increasing in IV which goes against you. Remember this stock can easily make a 5% move given the current environment and expiration. Just things to consider while stating the obvious.

    Overall, the position is rather flattish. Not the gamma/delta of a vertical nor the peakedness of a fly. Seems like a reluctant bull spread. Good luck.
     
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