Before calling names... I suggest those finding this inflamatory should present counter information. I don't know if this is true or not... but I thought we should see it. http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?forums/politics-religion.27/create-thread Breitbart News Daily: Fmr. FBI Counterterrorism Agent: ‘Vast Majority’ of US Mosques/Islamic Centers Part of ‘Jihadi Network’ On Friday’s Breitbart News Daily (6AM-9AM EST) on Sirius XM Patriot channel 125, former FBI counter-terrorism Special Agent John Guandolo argued that the “vast majority” of the 2,200 Islamic organizations, centers, and mosques in the United States are a part of a broader “Jihadi network” intent on imposing Sharia Law in America. Guandolo told host and Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon that the San Bernardino terrorist, the UC Merced stabber, the Chattanooga shooter, and the Boston Bombers can all be traced back to such Islamic Centers where “they were supported and trained.” Guandolo said that the San Bernardino terrorists attended the Islamic Center of Riverside, which he said was a “a Muslim Brotherhood Center.” He noted that the Boston Bombers attended the Islamic Society of Boston, which he said was a subsidiary of the Islamic Society of North America that was founded by an al-Qaeda guy who used to advise former President Bill Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore and is now in prison. He said there are over 2,200 Islamic Centers and mosques in America and the “vast majority of them are a part of this network — they’re hostile.” He said “over 75%” of these centers, based on their property records, are a part of the “Muslim Brotherhood network” since they are “owned by the North American Islamic Trust, which is the bank for the Muslim Brotherhood here.” He said “in 2006, I put together the first training program inside the government on the jihadi network in the United States… and was able to sneak a second one in in early 2007.” Guandolo trained “quite a number of agents from a variety of agencies,” including the Department of Justice, before the government shut down the programs. He mentioned that the “most prominent Muslim Brotherhood Organizations like the Islamic Society of North America, Muslim Public Affairs Council, and the Hamas organization called the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) — complained to the White House about the training inside the government at the FBI.” Guandolo said he “came to understand very deeply the massive jihadi network we have in the United States” and discovered that “the leaders of the Islamic organizations… were actually interfacing with government leaders and advising them with how to proceed in the war on terror, as it was called.” Guandolo realized that “we were being advised by the enemy on how to investigate and deal with the enemy” and “and that’s why I started the training.” He mentioned that in the U.S. v. Holy Land Foundation case in 2008, a 15-year FBI investigation that was revealed demonstrated “that the most prominent Islamic organizations in America and North America are a part of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, the jihadi network here.” Guandolo said that “internal documents entered into evidence say that the purpose of this network is to wage civilization jihad… until the entire world, and specifically the United States, is under Sharia law and the Islamic State is established here.” He said that, for instance, the “Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)—the largest Muslim Brotherhood organization here— is a Hamas funding entity” and its leadership works with the Secretary of State and the National Security staff, the previous four Secretaries of State, and briefs the FBI and CIA. He mentioned that the previous president of ISNA Mohamed Magid works “very closely with the White House and sits on the Homeland Security Advisory Committee with a secret clearance.” Guandolo emphasized that these Muslim leaders are the ones that are working with the FBI, Pentagon, Department of Homeland Security, National Security staffs. “Look at our policy for domestic terrorism… and you can track it back to these organizations,” he said, adding that “they write policy” and say “look, this is offensive to Muslims and this is how you need to do it, and we have done it.” Guandolo said that it is “insane” that these leaders serve a liaisons “between the Muslim community and the U.S. Government.” “This is the kind of operation these guys are doing here,” he said. Saying that he only speaks “with what I would walk into a court of law with” because there is “no issue with the amount of evidence” on the matter, Guandolo said the objective of the jihadi network is to “to establish an Islamic State under Sharia.” For instance, he said the Muslim Brotherhood’s own bylaws in English explicitly state that “they must fight the tyrants and enemies of Allah.” He also said the one of the biggest mistakes in dealing with Islamic terrorism is that “we want to tie it to ISIS” or another group when this is “part of a much broader movement” and more “than one organization.” “That network is not being touched,” he said. “That network in Paris that supported that attack is not being touched.” More troubling, according to Guandolo, is that many authorities in the federal government are oblivious to the Jihadi network. He said during one of his training sessions, someone who had been in the FBI and counterterrorism for over 14 years and was so angry that he “had never heard of the information you are putting out here.” When he asked others in audience from the FBI, Department of Homeland Security and other government agencies to “raise your hand if you knew this… zero hands went up.” “That right there is the issue,” he said, adding that he has even briefed three- and four-star generals who had also been clueless. “They don’t know it.” Guandolo said that even senior government officials have “no idea this is going on inside the United States because the people advising us are the leaders of the organizations—that per evidence in counterterrorism trials—have been identified organizations that are Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, al-Qaeda” who are “necessarily hostile to our system, our war fighting, our way of life. That’s the problem.”
I would like to think that Trump would change all this but I cannot erase the memory of that moron Bush blathering that islam is a religion of peace. And our same government that seems to go out of its way to offend Christians is certainly very circumspect when it comes to muslims, here or abroad.
Its a pickle. Being American we would rather chew our own arm off than have to use someone's religion as a flag for potential terrorism. After all, our country was founded to prevent such discrimination. But that begins to fall away and the purely analytical considerations begin to become apparent. Looking first at muslims is the most efficient way to find terrorists and it is inescapable. That single data attribute harbors a higher probability of detection than any other single or compound data attributes that are available. That is a physical reality and the data doesn't care about our ideals or principles. Sherman said "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want". If the islamofascists keep attacking the United States there will eventually be large scale detainment of muslim US citizens and non-citizens and they will be placed in internment camps in remote areas of the continental United States until such time as the war is resolved. My stepmother was born in an internment camp in Minnesota. That is no-kidding where this is going if it keeps up. There, I said it. The reason the USA puts citizens with ancestry of combatant nations and foreign nationals into internment camps during war is to protect them from being slaughtered wholesale by other US citizens, not to protect the public at large. Civilization is only a thin veneer covering several million years of savage and primal instincts which tend to start surfacing when we face serious threats.
Of course they're a part of the network. You mean they wouldn't use a religious center that the US government was handling with kid gloves because of allegations of profiling, to organize terror plots? You can actually hear the brain cells dying across the country these days.
maybe in the old days. Now if I am an Islamic terrorist the last place I want to be seen is anywhere near a mosque.
It's the time the constitutional right of freedom of religion is limited by universal human rights. In case of a conflict the latter have to prevail. In case of Islam you can argue it's believes and ideas are nothing but a violation of human rights.
Look guys, you have Christian radicals too. Tim mcveigh was as American as apple pie, just crazy and radicalized. It is true that there are more Islamic terrorists than Christians, these days, but 99% of muslims just want to live a good life: and the ones that come to the USA are looking for the great American dream.
the republicans are bogged down in what is their politically correct term to call a terrorist. They can't move forward until Obama submits to the the right wing pc police and calls them Islamic Terrorists. People are getting killed and the republicans are still bitching about we should call our enemy.