NASA Scientist - Universe seems hardwired to produce life

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Apr 8, 2016.

  1. jem

    jem

    As some us have been telling a certain few anti science truth trolls here...

    1. We still don't have a complete plausible pathway from life to non life.

    2. It seems the universe physical constants were extremely fine tuned for life... but that the basic building blocks of life were pre programmed with the materials and a drive for life.


    http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/659351/REVEALED-Life-on-Earth-was-brought-here-from-SPACE
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    However, she warns that there are a few steps in the process that remains a mystery: “Just because now you have all the molecules doesn’t mean you have life.”

    Scott Sandford of NASA Ames Research Center added: “It’s another example of how the universe seems to be hardwired to produce a lot of the kinds of compounds you would like to be around if you want to get life going.

    “If you think of all these little molecules we’re making as Lego blocks, and life as a kind of very complex, organised Lego castle, the fact that Lego blocks are falling out of the sky can’t be a bad thing.”
     
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    Lol, ok, I know what you actually meant.

    Anyway, scientists just created a lifeform with fewer genes than any other known. Assuming this process can continue as we learn more, it seems plausible we could create the whole chain from non-life to life ourselves, bypassing the vast periods of time that it took Nature to do it. Of course, some of those marginal lifeforms might be dangerous, like prions and viruses.
     
  3. About evolution? Climate change, maybe? You mean like that?

    Could you point me to the " extremely fine tuned" part?
     
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  4. fhl

    fhl

    Jem, just tell the trolls that the universe identifies with creationism and then they have no argument. Their own rules prohibit it.
     
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  5. According to the program I watched on the Science Channel last night, we were set up for an ice age in about a thousand years. Naturally ice would just keep growing all the way to the equater where only microbes could live, and then when things warmed up again that would be the seeds of life, producing all the plants and animals we know today. But because man is warming the earth, we may not have another ice age in about a 1000 years which would destroy all life as we know it except for some microbes at the equater and so when the earth warms we may not be able to start it all back up again. And 97% of all scientists agree.
     
  6. jem

    jem

    I have quoted here on et in our dozens of threads dozens of leading scientists stating our universe is (or appears ) extremely finely tuned for life. However, many of them speculate that the multiverse could explain the fine tuning.





     
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  7. Piptaker

    Piptaker

    Is this proof life (existence) isn't quite what we think?

     
  8. No, you freshly drew that conclusion all over again with your opening post to this thread, presumably from the link you provided. Please point me to the "extremely fine tuned" part in that link.
     
  9. stu

    stu

    Chemical origins (walks like a duck) by natural causes (talks like a duck) scientifically is what all life is observed to be (looks like a duck).
    It's going to be a duck.

    The story that an imaginary magic man from a band called Genesis blew wind up Adam West's nose, who ironically turned into a bat anyway showing how crap the wizard was at his job, really isn't the plausible pathway many creationists like to tell themselves it is.
     
  10. jem

    jem

    If you want to be a good atheist talk about the science that would allow a fine tuned universe with a building blocks which have a drive for life baked in... without there being a Tuner or a Baker.

    Your random chance formed the universe and the life within it idea (duck) is now looking wrong (as fuck) for 2 reasons.

    And do you realize how twisted you are. I bring science and then you bring up some red herring about the bible. We are not talking about a particular baker or tuner. Just the fact the universe appears designed and that the building blocks for life appear baked in according to many scientists.


     
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