It seems that one very unique, and never seen before, phenomena taking place in a third world country, is what is happening with Duterte. on the ground at street levels on the corridors at "elite" levels
The Philippines: a bit less than 100 millions habitants. Before Duerte, Philippines had around 3 to 4 millions drug addicts. In 6 months: more than 900,000 drug addicts and drug dealers have surrendered, confessed and are willing to go through drug rehabilitation. It would be interesting to find out more about what is driving 900,000 addicts to go themselves to surrender.
Usually hard, drastic measures are required to truly fix something. -- alot of other countries should follow suit, if they really want change
I am continuing to try to understand better what we can learn from the Philippines and Roberto Duerte. In December 2015, well before he was elected: They said it could not be fixed because : - the consumers * people needed it : because they worked long hours * it was cheap for people to buy * drug addicts had been using it too long, they needed it to stay up late * drug addicts started using it at a too young age * the drug addicts had no opportunities to get off drugs* some had parents who did not care they took drugs - the suppliers * money; the drug rulers had a lot of money, there was a LOT of money involved * they had weapons * they were ready to kill so as to protect their business and territories *for them killing was just normal business * they were not into feeling sorry for others - the environment * the police left them alone *the police protected the drug people * there was bribery and corruption in the police system *they did not fear nor the police, nor the judicial system *there was a lack of justice *the judicial system was corrupt *the drug money was used for politicians to finance their campains In less than 6 months after Duerte got elected, a lot of emotions, upset at the street level. The 900,000 drug dealers cho surrendered and confess are no longer saying they absolutely need it. too rich to face justice : few months after Duerte is elected, even fleeing in a rich country , loaded with money, rich Philippine drug people are facing justice too powerful to face justice : The Philipinnes actual situation is showing that not everything we were informed about handling drug activities is true. Many lies were fed to people regarding drug. Much more to learn, contrasting before Duerte, and after Duerte in the Philippines.
Sure, a national hero to all those who do not oppose him. All those who disagree with him are ousted in public and accused out of thin air without the slightest factual backup. But hey, since Trump we got used to Truth 2.0.
and it would be interesting how the Philippines is gonna pay for the rehabilitation of those 900k addicts. If you have ever been to Asia, let alone the Philippines you should know that what they mean with rehabilitation means locking them up in a cell, up to their own devices, sometimes killing each other in inhumanely overfilled prison cells. The Philippine is a total chaos and if you think anything there can be learned and applied to the US or Western World then you must be deluded. The Philippines most likely has more children from single mothers than obese woman int he US. Thank the Catholic Church for prohibiting divorce and biased law courts who do nothing when men simply walk out of a marriage and leave their wives and kids stranded with nothing. What do you think the result will be? Prostitution and drug dealing by kids and young adults. The Philippines right now is embarking on the same kind of stupid supply-side drug war that never worked in the US and will never work. All that while European countries are successful at fighting the illicit drug trade from the demand-side by de-criminalizing drug addiction. P.S.; What drives those addicts to surrender. Lol, were you not the one who opened this thread? Maybe you should read your own and related articles or talk to people involved in this whole trade. They surrender because they are fearing for their lives, because a ridiculous president openly called for the public to shoot whomever they deem related to drugs, and of course the public is very good at discerning who is involved in the drug trade. Nice to see what the outcome is when uneducated masses are allowed to take the law into their own hands. Geez.
Thank you for pointing out the aspects not well looked at regarding this situation. * 900k addicts turning themselves in - never actually seen before in any country. Who should be blamed for that? Should people be blamed for 900k existing addicts prefering to surrender and reveal their drug dealers and the corrupt officers and judges and lawyers who surround, and mostly profiteer from their drug use? Who should be blamed for the 4 million addicts? With 900k turning themselves in less than 6 months, that shows there was a real number of drug addicts, who need real help. Are you blaming blaming Their President Roberto Duerte for not building rehab centers and letting these people into prisons ? Were the former President unaware of the drug problems, but happily using drug money for their campains to blame? Or is it Duerte aware of the drug problem, but not using drug money to blame? Though the prisons there are awful conditions, why do these drug addicts who surrender and confess to the Police, still prefer to stay in jail as long as they feel they can't handle themselves in regards to drugs? * You point out the US who did the same: did they really? From my understanding, in the Philipines, they are also going after the drug Lords, including the richest one involved in drugs, the politicians involved in drugs, the top military and police officers involved in drugs, the lawyers involved in drugs, the judges involved in drugs. They are sparing nobody. Apparently, US drug on war did not concern politicians involved in drugs, police officers in volved in drugs, judges involved in drugs In European countries, politicians involved in drugs are not unknown. But in the USA, at least you have courageous people putting it like it is: ( one question: would they bail out their once drug supplier if asked to? in other terms are they opened to corruption ?) Thailand would have been a similar case to compare to : they went on killing people at the street levels, but here again, they did not touch the corruption that allows the drug activities to continue, nor obviously the "elite" level involved in drugs. * You are suggesting that people from the Philipines who deal drug do not have a choice. Now, that 900K are turning themselves to the police there, how comes there are not more women and kids getting involved in drugs or drug related activities ? I believe we have been fed a LOT of lies regarding drugs. - One lie is a drug addict can not manage himself/herself without rehab. The Philipines are demonstrating that drug addicts can stay off drugs if they so want, but they need to want it hard enough. The motivation is THE factor. A drug addict does not want to take drugs, and really really really want off it, he/she will. It is not a question of rehab centers. I am not saying to close rehabd centers. I'd say open even more of them to make it easier for those who wish to get off drugs, and also increase the numbers of bouddhist method meditation retreats, that have showed effectiveness. - Another lie is drug dealers are the bad guys : false. The corrupt police officers, the corrupt jdges, the corrupt military, the corrupt politicians are as well. Without their involvement in protecting and promoting it , drug activities won't take place. * Now that the catholic Church being responsible for single mothers, or the fathers who walk out being responsible for single mothers is very questionable. You can ask these single mothers, and those whose partners walk out, few questions: - did you had any acts of "impudicity" ( large term used to cover everything in front, behind, via mouth, via touch) with the person you married before getting married ? - did you have the 2-3 years "cooling" period ( the real Catho make exceptions for older couples), aka engagement and marriage training ( actually serious reflection period), before getting married ? Some priests even advise couples to not meet for at least one year, and fast track those separated for many years. Do they get it right, when no impudicity is involved, in not fast tracking those who never separated before marriage, and not delaying those who separated but want to join ? - was there anybody in this world, who was not present during this marriage, but whose presence would have make the engaged people think hard before saying 'yes' ? ( that can be a former lover or love interest who go sidelined, etc) Real catholic is a very serious matter : this is why the real one stay married with no coercion, threats, blame, menaces and psychological abuses and pressures to do so. They are actually VERY happy in it, and would not want it another way, nor with any another person. They atually paid the price BEFOREHAND for a very healthy marriage. The other pay it after the wedding, with the normal consequences ( guy running away, etc). Being a real catholic is a very difficult thing to do ( "no impudicity" means something) , and many so-called 'catholic' in practice are not. They don't understand the spiritual laws that are at stake. Not just psychological, nor mindset laws.