Soro's panicks

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. jem

    jem

    Billionaire globalist George Soros has penned a panicked rant in which he decries President-elect Donald Trump as a “would be dictator” who threatens the future of the new world order.

    In an article for Project Syndicate, Soros begins by mentioning how he lived under both Nazi and then Soviet rule in Hungary before asserting that “various forms of closed societies – from fascist dictatorships to mafia states – are on the rise.”

    This claim is confounded by the facts, which show that, “The share of the world population living in democracies (has) increased continuously.”
    Soros writes that in voting for Trump, Americans “elected a con artist and would-be dictator as its president,” and that his defeat of Hillary Clinton means America will be “unable to protect and promote democracy in the rest of the world” (because that policy worked so well in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya).

    Soros also slams Trump’s new cabinet as containing nothing other than “incompetent extremists” and “retired generals”.

    Explaining how he supports the European Union because it is a successful attempt at “social engineering,” Soros laments the fact that the body has become “increasingly dysfunctional” and its disintegration has been accelerated, “first from Brexit, then from the election of Trump in the US, and on December 4 from Italian voters’ rejection, by a wide margin, of constitutional reforms.”

    Soros also bemoans Russian President Vladimir Putin’s alleged undue influence during the presidential election.

    “At first, he tried to control social media. Then, in a brilliant move, he exploited social media companies’ business model to spread misinformation and fake news, disorienting electorates and destabilizing democracies. That is how he helped Trump get elected,” writes Soros.

    Soros says Putin “felt threatened by “color revolutions” in Georgia, Ukraine, and elsewhere,” without mentioning that Soros himself played a key role in bankrolling these contrived uprisings, as well as the color revolution being fomented against Trump.

    The irony of an ultra-rich elitist who has bankrolled the overthrow of innumerable governments insisting he cares about “democracy” and the will of the people is particularly rich.

    The whole tone of the piece is clearly fraught with concern that the populist movement sweeping the west poses a direct threat to the plutocratic new world order that Soros has spent his entire life helping to build.

    He concludes by warning that “the EU is on the verge of breakdown” due to stagnant economic growth and the out of control refugee crisis (that Soros himself again helped create in the first place as a way to obtain political power).

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  2. jem

    jem

    here is soros article. watch him go insane when he gets to trump.


    https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/open-society-needs-defending-by-george-soros-2016-12


    Open Society Needs Defending



    Open societies are in crisis, and various forms of closed societies – from fascist dictatorships to mafia states – are on the rise. Because elected leaders failed to meet voters’ legitimate expectations and aspirations, electorates have become disenchanted with the prevailing versions of democracy and capitalism.

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    NEW YORK – Well before Donald Trump was elected President of the United States, I sent a holiday greeting to my friends that read: “These times are not business as usual. Wishing you the best in a troubled world.” Now I feel the need to share this message with the rest of the world. But before I do, I must tell you who I am and what I stand for.

    I am an 86-year-old Hungarian Jew who became a US citizen after the end of World War II. I learned at an early age how important it is what kind of political regime prevails. The formative experience of my life was the occupation of Hungary by Hitler’s Germany in 1944. I probably would have perished had my father not understood the gravity of the situation. He arranged false identities for his family and for many other Jews; with his help, most survived.

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    In 1947, I escaped from Hungary, by then under Communist rule, to England. As a student at the London School of Economics, I came under the influence of the philosopher Karl Popper, and I developed my own philosophy, built on the twin pillars of fallibility and reflexivity. I distinguished between two kinds of political regimes: those in which people elected their leaders, who were then supposed to look after the interests of the electorate, and others where the rulers sought to manipulate their subjects to serve the rulers’ interests. Under Popper’s influence, I called the first kind of society open, the second, closed.

    The classification is too simplistic. There are many degrees and variations throughout history, from well-functioning models to failed states, and many different levels of government in any particular situation. Even so, I find the distinction between the two regime types useful. I became an active promoter of the former and opponent of the latter.

    I find the current moment in history very painful. Open societies are in crisis, and various forms of closed societies – from fascist dictatorships to mafia states – are on the rise. How could this happen? The only explanation I can find is that elected leaders failed to meet voters’ legitimate expectations and aspirations and that this failure led electorates to become disenchanted with the prevailing versions of democracy and capitalism. Quite simply, many people felt that the elites had stolen their democracy.

    After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US emerged as the sole remaining superpower, equally committed to the principles of democracy and free markets. The major development since then has been the globalization of financial markets, spearheaded by advocates who argued that globalization increases total wealth. After all, if the winners compensated the losers, they would still have something left over.

    The argument was misleading, because it ignored the fact that the winners seldom, if ever, compensate the losers. But the potential winners spent enough money promoting the argument that it prevailed. It was a victory for believers in untrammeled free enterprise, or “market fundamentalists,” as I call them. Because financial capital is an indispensable ingredient of economic development, and few countries in the developing world could generate enough capital on their own, globalization spread like wildfire. Financial capital could move around freely and avoid taxation and regulation.

    Globalization has had far-reaching economic and political consequences. It has brought about some economic convergence between poor and rich countries; but it increased inequality within both poor and rich countries. In the developed world, the benefits accrued mainly to large owners of financial capital, who constitute less than 1% of the population. The lack of redistributive policies is the main source of the dissatisfaction that democracy’s opponents have exploited. But there were other contributing factors as well, particularly in Europe.

    I was an avid supporter of the European Union from its inception. I regarded it as the embodiment of the idea of an open society: an association of democratic states willing to sacrifice part of their sovereignty for the common good. It started out at as a bold experiment in what Popper called “piecemeal social engineering.” The leaders set an attainable objective and a fixed timeline and mobilized the political will needed to meet it, knowing full well that each step would necessitate a further step forward. That is how the European Coal and Steel Community developed into the EU.

    But then something went woefully wrong. After the Crash of 2008, a voluntary association of equals was transformed into a relationship between creditors and debtors, where the debtors had difficulties in meeting their obligations and the creditors set the conditions the debtors had to obey. That relationship has been neither voluntary nor equal.

    Germany emerged as the hegemonic power in Europe, but it failed to live up to the obligations that successful hegemons must fulfill, namely looking beyond their narrow self-interest to the interests of the people who depend on them. Compare the behavior of the US after WWII with Germany’s behavior after the Crash of 2008: the US launched the Marshall Plan, which led to the development of the EU; Germany imposed an austerity program that served its narrow self-interest.

    Before its reunification, Germany was the main force driving European integration: it was always willing to contribute a little bit extra to accommodate those putting up resistance. Remember Germany’s contribution to meeting Margaret Thatcher’s demands regarding the EU budget?

    But reuniting Germany on a 1:1 basis turned out to be very expensive. When Lehman Brothers collapsed, Germany did not feel rich enough to take on any additional obligations. When European finance ministers declared that no other systemically important financial institution would be allowed to fail, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, correctly reading the wishes of her electorate, declared that each member state should look after its own institutions. That was the start of a process of disintegration.

    After the Crash of 2008, the EU and the eurozone became increasingly dysfunctional. Prevailing conditions became far removed from those prescribed by the Maastricht Treaty, but treaty change became progressively more difficult, and eventually impossible, because it couldn’t be ratified. The eurozone became the victim of antiquated laws; much-needed reforms could be enacted only by finding loopholes in them. That is how institutions became increasingly complicated, and electorates became alienated.

    The rise of anti-EU movements further impeded the functioning of institutions. And these forces of disintegration received a powerful boost in 2016, first from Brexit, then from the election of Trump in the US, and on December 4 from Italian voters’ rejection, by a wide margin, of constitutional reforms.

    Democracy is now in crisis. Even the US, the world’s leading democracy, elected a con artist and would-be dictator as its president. Although Trump has toned down his rhetoric since he was elected, he has changed neither his behavior nor his advisers. His cabinet comprises incompetent extremists and retired generals.

    What lies ahead?

    I am confident that democracy will prove resilient in the US. Its Constitution and institutions, including the fourth estate, are strong enough to resist the excesses of the executive branch, thus preventing a would-be dictator from becoming an actual one.

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    But the US will be preoccupied with internal struggles in the near future, and targeted minorities will suffer. The US will be unable to protect and promote democracy in the rest of the world. On the contrary, Trump will have greater affinity with dictators. That will allow some of them to reach an accommodation with the US, and others to carry on without interference. Trump will prefer making deals to defending principles. Unfortunately, that will be popular with his core constituency.

    I am particularly worried about the fate of the EU, which is in danger of coming under the influence of Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose concept of government is irreconcilable with that of open society. Putin is not a passive beneficiary of recent developments; he worked hard to bring them about. He recognized his regime’s weakness: it can exploit natural resources but cannot generate economic growth. He felt threatened by “color revolutions” in Georgia, Ukraine, and elsewhere. At first, he tried to control social media. Then, in a brilliant move, he exploited social media companies’ business model to spread misinformation and fake news, disorienting electorates and destabilizing democracies. That is how he helped Trump get elected.

    The same is likely to happen in the European election season in 2017 in the Netherlands, Germany, and Italy. In France, the two leading contenders are close to Putin and eager to appease him. If either wins, Putin’s dominance of Europe will become a fait accompli.

    I hope that Europe’s leaders and citizens alike will realize that this endangers their way of life and the values on which the EU was founded. The trouble is that the method Putin has used to destabilize democracy cannot be used to restore respect for facts and a balanced view of reality.

    With economic growth lagging and the refugee crisis out of control, the EU is on the verge of breakdown and is set to undergo an experience similar to that of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s. Those who believe that the EU needs to be saved in order to be reinvented must do whatever they can to bring about a better outcome.
     
  3. jem

    jem

    here is the key... to Soro's cognitive dissonance. (and why lefties who think they are really liberals are unhinged..)

    Soro's says...

    "I distinguished between two kinds of political regimes: those in which people elected their leaders, who were then supposed to look after the interests of the electorate, and others where the rulers sought to manipulate their subjects to serve the rulers’ interests. Under Popper’s influence, I called the first kind of society open, the second, closed."

    Is there any doubt in anyone's mind Clinton - Soro's and friends sought to manipulate the DNC and the electorate to serve Clinton's - Soro's interests. Clinton could not even identify a coherent traditional democrat message. (Trump took over the democrats message and won the rust belt)

    Is there any doubt the leaders are Europe have been willing to destroy their countries and their culture with immigration to serve the interest of the corporate elite.

    Soro's and his team of vampires have attemped to suck the west dry and then bring in immigrants to over ride the last votes of those who still love their own nations.

    Hence the coginitive dissonance (unhinging) of the left.

    Trump and wikileaks (they think putin) is a mirror and the mirror shows the left Clinton and Soros and all the other elite running the show are everything they are supposed to be against.

     
  4. "Soros begins by mentioning how he lived under both Nazi and then Soviet rule in Hungary"

    This is slightly infuriating. Soros WAS a Nazi. He worked for them taking items that belonged to Jews and turning in Jews. This is like some guy in Syria who is in ISIS complaining he is under ISIS rule. You can't bitch about it if you're a part of it!
     
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  5. Ditch

    Ditch

    It's time that idiot is declared an enemy of the state, arrested and locked up life among muslim terrorists. Let him rot away in prison and seize all his assets.
     
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  6. Ditch

    Ditch

    Was? He still is, only now it's called a globalist.
     
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  7. jem

    jem

    it should have been panics...
     
  8. It's an interesting piece. He seems to just ignore anything that contradicts his theories. Take the open and closed society classification. He suggests we are going from open to closed. Plenty of voters said the exact opposite. They despised the establishments of both parties. Democrat pols seem mainly interested in being in a position to cash in, like the sleazy Clintons and Podestas. Republicans, to do what business donors tell them to do.

    Trump was a ray of sunshine. Both party establishments and the corrupt media that did their bidding all loathed him. The big irony is they all thought Trump was killing himself with his tweets and speeches. Instead, voters loved him. Finally, we had a guy with a pair of balls who wasn't afraid to take anyone on and would say whatever was on his mind, NYC-style.

    Does that make him a dictator, or just genuine? And which is more threatening to the established order?
     
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  9. Soros draws an interesting analogy between then breakup of the Soviet Union in 1990 to the current condition of the EU. Then he bemoans the fact that the leading candidate in France does not toe Obama's "Putin is satan" line.

    When the Soviet Union was on the verge of breakup, we did everything we could to encourage it. We saw the Soviet Union as a threat and anything that reduced its reach was in our vital interests. Soros faults Putin for having the same incentives. Our meddling was far beyond anything Putin is likely to do, but Putin's is a dire threat.

    The comparison to the Soviet Union is apt however. Sovereign countries longed to be free of the yoke of Soviet imperialism. Today, sovereign European countries long to be free of the yoke of Brussels and its intrusive army of regulators. Who cares what they want, Soros huffs.
     
  10. jem

    jem

    soros is to an open society
    what a strictly carb diet is to a type 2 diabetic

    I ask soros questions.
    He thinks the mark of an open society is that leaders serve their constituents?

    Then why is he spending big money promoting mass immigration?

    how is it that bringing in more millions more immigrants good for Americans? Especially when some are terrorists? Who benefits from more immigrants? Soros friends to the Americans looking for higher wages and lower inflation?

    Now... who is serving the voters interests more... Obama - Clinton and the rest of soros' team like Ryan... or Trump.

    No who is the real risk to me a U.S. taxpayer... Trump the dictator or the officials Soro's has purchased?
     
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    #10     Dec 29, 2016