SPY and $XSP

Discussion in 'Options' started by BMK, Aug 3, 2023.

  1. BMK

    BMK

    Has anyone ever held a long stock position in SPY and hedged it with $XSP options, e.g., a short call, or a long put, or both?

    I get the fact that it is not a perfect hedge, because $XSP options are cash-settled. And $XSP is a mathematical construct that is exactly one tenth of $SPX, except for some very minor differences due to rounding. SPY is not one tenth of $SPX. It is something else. o_O There is always a small but mathematically significant difference between the value of SPY and the value of $XSP, and it is not due to rounding. It has to do with how SPY handles dividends. It is technically tracking error in SPY.

    And in a retail account, the broker will treat a short $XSP call as a naked short for margin calculations. Even if you are long SPY, it's not a covered call. $XSP is an index option, so it is impossible to be long the underlying security.

    I get all that.

    However, if you can handle the margin requirement, it feels like it would be a viable hedging strategy, that some might like to use instead of SPY options, because, among other things, it eliminates the possibility of early assignment.

    Any thoughts on this?
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2023
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I trade spx options against my spy position exclusively. The 1256 treatment is the primary reason.
     
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  3. mervyn

    mervyn

    It is McDonald’s vs Burger King, same sh*t.
     
  4. qwerty11

    qwerty11

    $XSP and SPY are both members of the S&P 500 Index basket, so 100% offset.
     
  5. BMK

    BMK

    Doesn't work that way in our Schwab account LOL

    Maybe it works if you have portfolio margin
     
  6. qwerty11

    qwerty11

    Yes, that's with PM but I assume all more serious retail traders have that.