The Mental Game of Trading and Power vs Force

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Sprout, Apr 1, 2023.

  1. Sprout

    Sprout

    Two separate topics and books. The first by Jared Tendler - "The Mental Game of Trading" is based off some core concepts of Neuro-Linguistic Programming's Meta Model, specifically "mapping an internal representation" and the use of "pattern interrupts" to both recognize a repeating pattern, be cognizant of it unfolding in the moment and choosing a different behavior. He has some free worksheets on his website and one can learn more about his methodology in this ChatWithTrader's podcast;

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/67j9zGSvreTSeqkVNsUphE?si=849c502c9c1247f0

    ---

    Power vs Force by David R. Hawkins applies the practice of Behavioral Kinesiology and the use of Y/N questions to get responses from one's body for Sensemaking and getting to "Truth."

    For some it might be too woowoo and pseudoscience, but for the open-minded; the practice works regardless of the conceptual framework one brings.

    The "Map of Consciousness" and "Power Patterns of Human Attitudes" list of polarities is insightful.

    PowerVsForce-Screenshot 2023-04-01 123214.jpg

    May we all bring "more Power" to our trading and "less Forcing" trades.
     
    trismes, stochastix, speedo and 2 others like this.
  2. power vs force was interesting. i like that abstract type of stuff
     
    Sprout and beginner66 like this.
  3. mikeriley

    mikeriley

    I enjoyed Mr Tendler's book. Good stuff

    As for "less forcing" of trades from impulsive-driven emotions,
    nothing worked until I went to higher time frames. i.e. 30 min, 1 hour, 4 hour and daily.

    aaaaaa.jpg
     
    PPC, maxinger, Tradess0610 and 3 others like this.
  4. Saw this video:



    It looks like he self-published the book. JT Press:

    https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!...2ahUKEwjq_cu91Iv-AhX2jIkEHeHCAUoQpx96BAhJEAU#
     
    MACD likes this.
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    I remember seeing some of his lectures in the past on body kinesthetics. This is just one or two snippets. Be your own judge...



     
    Sprout likes this.
  6. maxinger

    maxinger

    1 min chart:
    upload_2023-4-4_9-8-11.jpeg


    5 min chart:
    upload_2023-4-4_9-8-37.jpeg


    Day chart:
    upload_2023-4-4_9-9-16.png
     
    MACD likes this.
  7. volpri

    volpri

    Opportunities for making $

    1 min chart…$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    5 min chart…$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Day chart….$$$$$$
    Weekly chart….$$$$
    Monthly ..$
     
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    Very clever response. This is your admission that averaging down does not work then?
     
  9. volpri

    volpri

    No nothing to do with averaging down. Has to do with more trading opportunities. More opportunities to make $$$$. In short-term trading the tactic that renders more probability par excellence is scaling into a losing position or averaging down (less palatable term but actually just pure semantics.) And martingaling increases probability even more for a successful trade. The downside is if you act (by averaging down) to increase probability you also increase risks and decrease profit. But a trader that is well capitalized and trading smaller TF’s can still pull out way ahead because of the FOT (frequency of trading opportunities) and position size.

    HFTs operate on the principle of FOT. Their very name suggests it. Coupled with position size and high probability …the ticket to making substancial profits very quickly.
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2023
    SimpleMeLike and MACD like this.
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    So you lost your ass on the average down technique? That is what you are saying? No wonder you have been so silent.

    Admit your losses now, or be forever admonished. You used to give us all this detailed chart analysis on your trading, and you then went DEAD SILENT. STAT.

    Something happened. You are now talking about Martingaling, which is something you never did. You are talking about how well-capitalized one is. You never did that before, either. So what happened, man? Be honest!

    You know where MY honesty is, it is in my trading journal. Win, lose or draw. What HAPPENED to you?
     
    #10     Apr 4, 2023
    SimpleMeLike likes this.