Trading with +$3M in funding

Discussion in 'Journals' started by TheLiveTradingChannel, Aug 6, 2023.

  1. This is a trading journal to track my journey, give perspective on an unusual way to trade than most (I mostly scalp, as a market maker would do), and force myself to keep notes on the trading day.

    My main goals with this for 2023 are:
    - Reach 6 figures in payout
    - Stay consistent
    - Protect capital at all costs


    Accounts:
    - 7 Apex PA accounts
    - 10 Leeloo PA accounts
    - 1 BluSky.pro funded account
    Accounts are in copy trade groups withing different instances of Sierra Chart per funding firm.

    Products:
    Treasury Bonds Futures and occasionally some equities indices.


    I have already established a track record; I will post a few past days below to get this journal started.

    20230803:
    Lot of waiting on the sidelines while bond market is in complete sell off due to AAA to AA+ downgrade
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    20230802:
    Gave back some profit on the buyback around MOC
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    20230801:
    Slow day had to babysit. Next two weeks will probably be at this pace as the market cools down toward summer volumes.
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    20230731:
    So apparently today was a relatively tedious day for the indices, all right day on the bonds side.
    So from what I've seen in the past weeks chances are it'll be the other way around tomorrow.
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    Nice fireworks at MOC just now on bonds, another indication that next few days are going to be special

    20230728:
    Tedious day, the OF and price action was not like I'm used to.
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  2. 20230726:
    No comment
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    20230725:
    Took a loss on ZF at MOC gave back profits and some.
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    20230724:
    More cautious this Monday, faded the edges
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  3. mikeriley

    mikeriley

    The copy trading device is definitely an advantage in using prop firms.
    I wish you well in your trading journey.:thumbsup:
     
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  4. mervyn

    mervyn

    zt and zn are probabaly on the move, but i trade my own money.
     
  5. traider

    traider

    is this real money
     
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  6. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    Thanks for sharing !
    Hope your reach 6 figures in payout

    Looking to Sierra Chart for their Order Allocation to Trade Accounts
    Would you have advices about trading Performance Accounts with Apex ?

    Starting my First PA on Monday.
    Looking to trade 20 of them by October.

    Best wishes

    The +$3M is the advertised account.
    But usually they give around 3% Drawdown (~100k)
    Which could be real or synthetic money based on their discretion.
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2023
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  7. TrAndy2022

    TrAndy2022

    Unless you want to risk $1 million (where any prop firm cannot help you because of that big size) it is better to risk like $90k or so with prop firms than with your own money, because you cannot loose that amount by paying challenges with them. If you traded with your own risk money, loosing $100k hurts a lot more than loosing some funded accounts on those prop firms. Even a slight drawdown of $30k is hurting a lot more with own money than a similar drawdown with a bunch of challenges on those prop firms. That is why taking challenges on those prop is useful for any trader who is already profitable or better consistent profitable. But even you are not consistent, then doing this as business where you have expenses on buying challenges while you still make some money of funded accounts on any prop is still a viable and good option. So the only reason not to do this is, when you are so big, that your money risk is by far any greater than the sum you could buy of any challenges on such prop firms. Then it does not make sense to hunt for 6 figure monthly payouts when you are already doing or aiming for 7 figure monthly payouts. But until then the prop firm route is the best option nowadays. Because you do not risk your own money.

    Just to make an example. I am more with FX related so I take MyForexFunds as example. For a $300k account you get $36k drawdown. If you ever lost $30k or more in a short period of time with your own money, you would be happy with such a prop firm paying only $1250 for such a challenge. The loss is more than 20 times less that what you could loose with your own money on your own personal account. Even the prop firms are good thing for non profitable traders or traders who need to learn more. Because you can spend as little as $100 or even less with a challenge and you learn to follow rules and the need to meet goals. So you learn discpline and goalsetting too with any prop firm, that can help to accelerate learning on trading. And last you only can loose very little here. Doing the same as a learner on own personal accounts you easily can loose more than a granny, so lot more. It is a bless that such props nowadays exist in my eyes.
     
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  8. How long have you been trading and what's your style of trading?

    I prefer to scalp with funding firms accounts, it's easier to manage the trailing drawdown this way, build a cushion (like 1.5x time your max drawdown) and you can then start taking bigger targets.
     
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  9. destriero

    destriero

    That's your hedge fund, Bro?
     
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Bro trades for a hedgefund, prop firm, and his PA. He makes 20%/month and still trades odd lots.
     
    #10     Aug 6, 2023