Trump was right on Belgium too... (it is tragic that he is so correct)

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. jem

    jem

    (January 27th New York Times) […] Asked by the Fox Business Network anchor Maria Bartiromo about the feasibility of his proposal to bar foreign Muslims from entering the United States, Mr. Trump argued that Belgium and France had been blighted by the failure of Muslims in these countries to integrate.

    “There is something going on, Maria,” he said. “Go to Brussels. Go to Paris. Go to different places. There is something going on and it’s not good, where they want Shariah law, where they want this, where they want things that — you know, there has to be some assimilation. There is no assimilation. There is something bad going on.”

    Warming to his theme, he added that Brussels was in a particularly dire state. “You go to Brussels — I was in Brussels a long time ago, 20 years ago, so beautiful, everything is so beautiful — it’s like living in a hellhole right now,” Mr. Trump continued.

    For Belgians, already reeling from recent terrorist plots and a chronically dysfunctional government, Mr. Trump’s words were enough to induce a fit of pique worthy, in some cases, of Mr. Trump himself. (read more)

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com...belgium-the-new-york-times-mocked-him-for-it/
     
  2. jem

    jem

    You prevent it by not allowing people in.

    http://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...ls-attack-the-terrorists-are-totally-winning/

    Billionaire and 2016 GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump told Breitbart News on Tuesday in a wide-ranging, exclusive interview that in his estimation, the terrorist attack in Brussels, Belgium, proves terrorists are winning the war against the Western world. The Islamic State, or ISIS, has taken credit for the Brussels attacks.

    “The terrorists are totally winning,” Trump said in the interview that lasted more than 30 minutes. “The terrorists are making us look like fools.”

    Trump continued by noting that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—the Democratic presidential frontrunner who Trump is most likely to face in the general election, assuming he can seal the nomination in the next few months—is likely to be significantly negatively impacted by the rise of terror on the world stage.

    “The terrorists will cause Hillary Clinton to lose the election,” Trump said. “She’s weak on borders. She’s weak on crime. She’s weak on anything having to do with controversy other than controversy with herself. She’s weak on the police. She’s weak on anything having to do with strength. Hillary is so weak on the borders, and so afraid to talk negatively about protecting our people, that it will end up costing her the election in my opinion.”

    Trump said his previous warning, in an interview with Fox Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo, that Brussels was in danger is why he’s winning in the presidential election.


    “It’s one of the reasons I’m leading in the polls by so much,” Trump said.

    Trump also bashed the New York Times for mocking him—which it did back in January, over that Bartiromo interview—for making the Brussels prediction.

    “The New York Times wrote an article because the New York Times doesn’t have a clue,” Trump said. “That’s why they won’t be in business too much longer. I call them ‘the failingNew York Times.’ They wrote a mocking article, and so many people have called me about the New York Times article being so wrong. Brussels is a disaster. Brussels is a tinderbox. Brussels is a place I went to years ago—it was one of the most beautiful cities in the world and totally safe. Now, it’s catastrophic what’s happened to it. Many, many people are saying I was right about so many things. So many things.”

    When asked how the United States prevents this type of attack—and prevents the devaluing of western and U.S. culture by installing pockets of non-assimilated people like the community in Stockholm, Sweden, that now is called “Little Mogadishu” from popping up—Trump quadrupled down on his call for a temporary ban on all Muslim migration.

    “By not allowing the people in,” he said. “That’s how you prevent it, not allowing the people in. There has to be a moratorium. We have to find out what’s going on. Every city you look at, you take a look at Paris, you take a look at—the police don’t even go into the areas, the police are afraid of the areas. Look at the case of this fugitive. He was the number one fugitive in the world, and he was living right next to where he lived. All of those people knew that he was there and nobody turned him in.”

    In Sweden, just this week, 60 Minutes Australia news crews released footage of its trip to Stockholm’s Rinkeby district where young men used a car to run over one of the cameramen’s feet. Police didn’t want to accompany the news crew into the neighborhood, either, as a local political activist walked the television crew through how the migrants from East Africa have a particularly difficult time assimilating into Western culture.

    more at link
     
  3. jem

    jem

    Finally, I ask, how many times do we have to right before our crazy immigration policies end?
    How big a disaster are you who support the establishment and left willing to accept?

    Because you are doing that calculus whether you realize it or not.
    Your policies are in part the cause of these mass terrorist murders.

    You should be willing to do our best to ban terrorists from entering our countries.
    Or own Homeland Security IG said we are not able to screen out terrorists...so there should be a ban on all immigration til we can.
     
  4. jem

    jem

    Steven Wolfe, a UKIP member of the European parliament, was an eyewitness to the bombing of the Metro stop in Brussels on Tuesday morning.
    ...


    He said he didn’t want to talk about politics on “a day when so many people have died,” but he gave European politicians a warning: “If you think are secure, then there’s something wrong with you. And you really need to go back and look in the mirror, and answer yourselves to those people who won’t be able to go home to mums and dads, won’t be able to see their children, won’t be able to see their family … but you’re spouting, ‘The nation is secure.’ There’s something wrong with these people, and ordinary individuals in Belgium today have died, because of the arrogance of these individuals.”


    http://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...ave-died-due-to-arrogance-of-european-elites/
     
  5. jem

    jem

    to those that think Trump is not strong enough on this issue... I present

    Gerrt Wilders saying what many think...

    http://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...ave-died-due-to-arrogance-of-european-elites/

    “In the Netherlands, we have dozens of these returned jihadists. Our government allows most of them to freely walk our streets and refuses to lock them up. I demand that they be detained at once. Every government in the West, which refuses to do so, is a moral accessory if one of these monsters commits an atrocity.

    “The government must also close our national borders. The European Union’s Schengen zone, where no border controls are allowed, is a catastrophe. The Belgian Moroccan Salah Abdeslam, the mastermind of last November’s bloodbath in Paris, travelled freely from Belgium to the Netherlands on multiple occasions last year.

    “This is intolerable. Open borders are a huge safety risk. Our citizens are in mortal danger if we do not restore control over our own national borders”.

    Speaking earlier today Mr. Wilders lamented that commuters were killed in “cold blood” and said “The cause of all this bloodshed is Islam. We need to de-Islamize the West. That is the only way to safeguard our lives and protect our freedom”.
     
  6. Ditch

    Ditch

    At this very moment Geert Wilders is being prosecuted for the second time for his remarks on Islam and Muslims. Last week was the first session of the trial. Fortunately he's being defended by the best lawyer of the country, mr. Gert Jan Knoops, who delivered an absolutely brilliant defense, which was largely inspired by the legislation on free speech in the USA.
     
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  7. I doubt you can fully appreciate how difficult this is for Americans to understand, that a person, a leading politician moreover, can be criminally prosecuted for questioning immigration policy. We are slowly getting a dose of it, mainly through university speech codes. And of course, our resident PC expert from Canada, nine_ender, regularly reminds us we would be prosecuted in Canada for expressing negative opinions of officially protected groups. He does not see the irony of coming on here and slandering us as racists and bigots however.
     
  8. jem

    jem

    i am glad to hear he has a great lawyer. My inlaws are dutch (making my kids half dutch) so I have been following dutch news when I see it. Its difficult to accept that people can be prosecuted for speaking their opinion. I fear the U.S. is heading down this totalitarian path.

    I posted that prior to seeing what AAA wrote.
     
  9. jem

    jem

    chilling, scary, hard to believe, sad and at about 13 minutes he explains he is standing opposite a judge who has already made political statements against his freedom....

    I am really moved by this. I feel like it has historical importance.
    I hope that panel of judges supports freedom of speech and thought in the west. It would be terrible if they do not.

    But... pretty damn cool it was recorded and allowed to be distrubuted. I gave the Dutch a lot of credit for that. I just don't see how they could not find in his favor.

    as the comment says...
    Europe seems to think Orwell's books were a blueprint rather than a warning.


     
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  10. Wow, that opening statement is worth reading in its entirety. Talk about criminalizing political opposition. The democrats have made an art form of doing that here, but usually they manage to trump up some bogus corruption charge. Wilders is being prosecuted for repeating his party's platform.
     
    #10     Mar 22, 2016