As your moniker implies, you want something for nothing. There is no Holy Grail. Now, there is a simpler way that actually, works. There is some work involved. Lazy slugs would file out because they want to be overnight millionaires like those seeking their unicorns? It is called trend following. Jesse Livermore, Nicolas Darvas, Turtle traders, hedge funds, etc. used it. Why?
It is not that I want something for nothi Most people think like you and romanticise the idea of being a multi millionaire trader clicking on a few buttons a day, sipping champagne and driving in their posh cars in the cities during the day and making it rain in the club at night. But the reality is for every 1 that makes it 9 of them fail. Many of them also not for lack of trying. If that 9 who failed just dca every month religiously they would have a small fortune within a decade. But no instead of patiently dca-ing and making a few hundred k in 10 years, everyone wants to make a million in their first year. Maybe 1% makes that amt, 9% make a modest sum and the rest proceed to blow their accounts.
Still depends on the index. If your index has been trending down, does not matter. You would be averaging down on a losing position which is dumb really. Add to that, the emotion part of it. People do not know how emotional they are until, they lose a lot of monies in the stockmarket in a very short period of time. Those people are going to panic and sell out after such huge losses. Even if an index has been trending up, then, sells off deeply. How many will continue to hang on, how many will bailout and take their monies with their huge losses?
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That's why poor people stay poor. The richest don't break a sweat. Look at the buyer for the Salvator Mundi at 450 million USD. He is not worried about the price tomorrow or a few days away from now.
No. I do not romanticise the idea of being a multi millionaire trader. I cited Jesse Livermore, Nicolas Darvas, Turtle Traders, hedge funds as being highly successful traders who use trend following which is what I had clearly stated. As a person, who actually, trades the stockmarket, I do believe in trend following. I am a swing trader and trend follower and do not day trade. Dollar Cost Averaging? It is a crackpot idea as most people will not hang on, once the huge losses come from deep pullbacks and corrections. For this strategy to even work, you have to hang on how long? 20-30 years? What if you lose your job and need the monies?
What is that a painting? Absurd example. Like the filthy rich do not have enough monies to throw around? Not the same as buying into a position, losing monies, then, averaging down as you lose more monies? Most people will bail out to save what is left of their monies. It is just common sense. Ever hear of cut your losses and let your winners run? They did not tell you to average down because it is dumb.
I trend follow too. But it plays on your psyche because it's winning percentage is so low like 30% at times. Sometimes dca (maybe selectively) plus selling on a parabolic high volume breakout seems better. Richard Dennis was also a trend follower, he made big money and loss a large portion of it too that he had to step away from trading. Jesse Livermore also made and loss all 3 times trend following. But of course you could make a point that he over leveraged or didn't follow rules etc..
There is another component of trend following that traders ignore which is risk management. Every time you put on a trade, you are risking your monies. That is the reality. So, why not focus on the risk? The profits will take care of themselves as one trader said. Do not remember who said that but, it is so true. Most traders are only focused on making that million, ignoring the fact that they are losing all their capital trading the way they are?