A Truth on Trading.**Everyone, please Read**

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Bullz n Bearz, Jun 19, 2007.

  1. emini S&P sept contract.
     
    #11     Jun 19, 2007
  2. Not too long really, only a few months.
     
    #12     Jun 19, 2007
  3. On the upside, you're probably already a good trader, otherwise you wouldn't be able to consistently bank the profit in the first place.

    On the donwside, if you let that happen, and as you say, you let it happen often, knowing the e-mini contract and how it trades, you either need to seriously improve your trading skills or you need to seriously get another broker who won't dick you around.

    However it works.

    Good luck,

    JJ

    P.S. Notice how, in my writing, you always have total responsibility for your trades, both the profits and the losses?
     
    #13     Jun 19, 2007
  4. Well, in terms of brokers, I am currently on my fifth. They are Open E Cry. So, I have been around and searched for the best. Heard Open E Cry was it.

    In terms of me being a pretty good trader, eh, debatable. Not yet at least. I have a lot to learn before I get to that point. By the way, I far from consistantly bank profits just so you know. I mean I have a better idea on which direction the market currently goes(i use metastock to advise me and then also i use my own eyes) so that kinda works in terms of me banking profits more often than not. but when i lose, i seem to lose big(insert "cut your losses, let your profits grow line here.. lol)



    Personally, I Just need to stop trying to hit some big moves. I hate when I do this.
     
    #14     Jun 19, 2007
  5. jho

    jho

    I know you don't want advice but I'm going to give it anyway. What hook said was right, it's all in your head, and yes sounds very cliche. I've been trading for roughly 8-9 months now. After about 5 months I was starting to get frustrated, I couldn't see anything, I was doing the exact opposite of my plan, it was all in my head. I took 2 months off to refresh my brain and analyze what I had been doing.

    Been back for about 2 months with a positive mindset, I always follow my plan and I'm making a lot of progress, I can just feel I'm about ready to step up a level. Keep your thoughts as positive as possible. Tell yourself you will be a profitable trader by 2008 and keep working towards that goal every day.
     
    #15     Jun 19, 2007
  6. yeah , i like that mind set. i do try to remain positive. i guess "try' is the keyword, huh? i should just do.

    but yeah, when the trade goes against me, i lose a lot of those positive thoughts.. lol
     
    #16     Jun 19, 2007
  7. First and foremost, stay positive, you at least have the entry part of the equation correct.

    Secondly, you just gave yourself one of the keys to successful futures trading with your comment.
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    Trading derivatives is all about the leverage and how you manage your money, locking in gains when you have them, not overtrading, and coming back tomorrow to do it again.

    Good trading,

    JJ
     
    #17     Jun 19, 2007
  8. honestly speaking, how many people are TRULLLYYYY making a living off trading on this board? if so, for how long have you been making this and how long do you think you can continue this money making from trading for?
     
    #18     Jun 19, 2007
  9. mde2004

    mde2004

    You should have closed for a profit goofball. The market did not tell you to be greedy and use limit order, did it
     
    #19     Jun 19, 2007
  10. bullz, you suffer from a common logical fallacy. it goes back to the days of the greeks

    you assume that because you can't succeed, other's can't. "it's a scam" etc.

    spare me.

    the markets HAVE to move.

    good traders can make money from reassessment of value (on various timeframes) whether they use a lynchian analysis to find the next Hanes, a pure fundamental analysis a la buffett, or a technical analysis.

    MOST traders (contrast with investors - most investors make plenty of money) lose money.

    GOOD

    because losers like you will continue to enter the markets with no clue, no training, no business plan, and no sound methodology - and lose money. which provides the winning traders with that much more money, AND a reliable retail mindset to fade and make positive expectancy trades.

    the markets are NOT a zero sum game (except for futures and options) but there will be losers.

    and the losers will be concentrated among those who fail to do the training, due diligence, risk management, etc. that is the hallmark of a professional trader.
     
    #20     Jun 19, 2007