All Federal Job Seekers Will Be Required To Take A Trump Loyalty Test

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, May 29, 2025.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Psychopaths don't tend to rehabilitate and the longer they get away with stuff the more it becomes a path they will follow and up the ante. With the spineless Republicans in charge the only thing that will end Trump is his death, end of term, or Americans voting the Republicans out of power.
     
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  2. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Its really up to the authoratarians whether it gets to a vote out as the little scamps game elections.

    In places where formal institutions are ruined, corrupt, or fall under authoritarian control, enforcement of pro-social norms doesn't vanish; it shifts into informal hands. In these settings, what behavioral science calls "altruistic punishers" emerge: individuals willing to bear personal cost to punish wrongdoers.

    These people aren't necessarily saints or even particularly competent, but they are the natural counterweight to free-riders, cheats, and psychopaths who would otherwise dominate in low-rule environments.

    As norms erode and corrupt officials twist the machinery of law into a weapon, the law itself becomes the problem. In such cases, resisting it isn’t a deviation from justice; it is justice. At that point, the label "vigilante" becomes a misnomer.

    Heraclitus (fragmentary, c. 500 BCE)
    “Character is fate.” (ἦθος ἀνθρώπῳ δαίμων)

    Abuse of norms implies flawed character, and thus, one's downfall is self-made.
     
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  3. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Curtis Yarvin is calling for the end of democracy, and he’s making waves in MAGA. He believes the US should be run by a monarch.

    Video interview here:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/31/...n-anti-democracy-blogger-maga-gold-new-digvid

    Yarvin, who writes under the pseudonym "Mencius Moldbug," is a leading figure in the "Dark Enlightenment" or neoreactionary movement. He argues that liberal democracy has failed and should be replaced by an authoritarian regime led by a "national CEO" or monarch. He criticizes institutions like the media and universities—what he terms "the Cathedral"—for perpetuating progressive values he believes undermine societal order.

    Yarvin's proposals include the "Retire All Government Employees" (RAGE) plan, which calls for replacing career bureaucrats with loyalists to consolidate executive power. This concept parallels former President Trump's Schedule F executive order, aimed at reclassifying federal employees to facilitate their removal.

    His influence extends to prominent political figures. JD Vance, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, has acknowledged Yarvin's impact on his thinking, particularly regarding the restructuring of the federal bureaucracy. Vance has suggested that Trump should dismiss mid-level bureaucrats and replace them with allies, reflecting Yarvin's vision of a streamlined, loyalty-based government.

    As Yarvin's theories gain traction among MAGA circles, they contribute to ongoing discussions about the future of American governance and the resilience of its democratic institutions.

    5.6.2025
    Danielle Allen Debates Far-Right Blogger Curtis Yarvin
    Popular monarchist debates Allen on democracy.
    https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2025/05/danielle-allen-curtis-yarvin




    Unfortunate they keep popping their mics..
     
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Well, it looks like he is getting his wish.
     
    #54     Jun 1, 2025
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  5. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    It does look that way, but it depends on whether there are still people willing to take personal risks to uphold the norms when the law itself has been co-opted.

    In the U.S., that responsibility would traditionally fall to top generals as a last stop before civil war. But Trump, following the advice of his mentors, carried out a loyalty purge. So now, even that safeguard looks compromised.

    The land of the turkeys is now... Turkiye
     
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  6. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    God that was torture to get through.

    People like Yarvin rely heavily on momentum, on sounding erudite enough that their audience doesn’t stop to dissect the logic. But when you do stop and check each step, each assertion, each historical flourish... You just want to throw rocks at his head.

    Stoning seems barbaric but some deserved it.

    Allen made reasoned arguments backed by political theory, history, and democratic practice.

    Yarvin, on the other hand, traffics in deliberately provocative abstraction, often untestable or built on shaky premises (e.g., that a “CEO-king” system would fix complex political dysfunctions).

    Allen offered constructive critiques of democracy, acknowledging its flaws while defending its adaptability.

    Yarvin offered nihilistic critiques without a working alternative beyond stylized autocracy, often romanticized or cherry-picked from monarchic history.

    Allen engaged with Yarvin’s points and responded thoughtfully.

    Yarvin dodged, deflected, or indulged in what can only be described as rhetorical cosplaying, using jargon and history references in ways that impressed some but did not necessarily illuminate.

    Allen popped the mic more but they
    both did excessively. Really the sound guy's fault but it was very amateurish and I'm not impressed.
     
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  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    you are the only one talking about Kamala.

    it’s like you can’t say anything positive about Trump (the lesser of two evils) so you keep bringing up Kamala.
     
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  8. spy

    spy

    :rolleyes: #overcomethestink

    AHAHAHAH! Losers.

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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #59     Jun 6, 2025