Almost 2,000 RobinHood Accounts Hacked

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by bone, Oct 15, 2020.


  1. They didnt even look to see who they were competing against to steal ideas from. Fuckin amatuer hour over at RH. Or look at what regular brokerages do for security.

    not to mention its just common sense when dealing with the internet.
     
    #11     Oct 15, 2020
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  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    #12     Oct 15, 2020
  3. BMK

    BMK

    My experience in the last six months or so trying to call Schwab has been very poor. Long hold times, and on one call I was unable to choose an option to speak with a live rep until going through an extremely long message about activating "Voice ID," and there did not seem to a way to opt out of it.

    Yes, they have a phone number, but I have zero confidence in my ability to reach a live rep when it really matters.

    And it isn't just Schwab. I am certainly not the first person to make this observation, but every financial institution--whether it's a bank, broker, insurance company or something else--seems to have decided that COVID-19 has given them an excuse for really, really bad customer service and long hold times. Of course, it doesn't make sense. If everyone can, or in some cases must work from home, they should have more reps available--not less. A reduction in available staff may have made sense at the very beginning of the lockdown back in March, when many companies were not equipped to allow their customer service reps to work from home. But now it's just a bogus excuse to cut back on service, and force people to conduct business through e-mail or secure messaging instead of by telephone.

    And this is a trend that began long before the pandemic.

    Almost two years ago I got into a dispute with Spotify about a gift card that could not be activated. They have never had telephone customer service. When I e-mailed them, I got a canned autoreply suggesting that I communicate with their support team on Twitter.

    And of course, the Twitter account, like most support services through e-mail, is staffed by dozens of people. While working a single issue, you have to exchange messages with multiple team members, and they don't always read the entire thread. So to put it bluntly, sometimes they really don't know what the f**k they're talking about. It's really disgusting.

    My dispute with Spotify escalated to the point where I filed an arbitration case. And even their staff attorney would not give me a real office telephone number where I could reach him. Keep in mind that this was in early 2019, long before COVID-19. The only phone number I ever got was a cell phone that forwarded into Google Voice if he did not answer.

    Spotify has even stated "We do not have a telephone number" in some of their SEC filings. No joke.

    It's utterly ridiculous.

    The one advantage to e-mail and messaging is that you get a great "paper" trail of the complete incompetence of some of these support reps.

    I can't disclose the details, but my case against Spotify was settled, before reaching a full arbitration hearing, in a way that was very favorable for me. And pursuant to their terms of service, they had to pay all the arbitration filing fees, too.

    All over a $30 gift card that their support team could not get activated. I drilled them a second as*hole, and thoroughly enjoyed the process.

    BMK
     
    #13     Oct 15, 2020
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  4. zdreg

    zdreg

    SIPC not FDIC.
     
    #14     Oct 15, 2020
  5. bone

    bone

    From SIPC:

    "SIPC’s role and responsibilities are as defined under the Securities Investor Protection Act (SIPA). Under that law, SIPC protection is available only to customers of a member broker-dealer that is in liquidation under SIPA or is the subject of a direct payment procedure. If you discover that your account has been hacked and your securities or cash have been stolen, you should contact your brokerage firm, the Securities and Exchange Commission (www.sec.gov), the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (www.finra.org), your state securities regulator, or other appropriate law enforcement authorities. Whether you would be protected if your account was hacked would depend upon the circumstances under which your account was gained access to, and other factors being present that justify the liquidation of the brokerage firm."
     
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    #15     Oct 15, 2020
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  6. bone

    bone

    So, the way I at least read the SIPC statement on securities fraud is that unless Robinhood is being liquidated >> get your money from Robinhood and/or file a legal complaint with the SEC and FINRA.
     
    #16     Oct 15, 2020

  7. Depends on how big the class action lawsuit is, and the way its looking there will be one. If RH settles/can take care of it then no problem. If they declare bankruptcy then thats another story.

    So while hacking isnt a coverable offense under SPIC/FDIC there are fallouts from said event that put them in motion.
     
    #17     Oct 15, 2020
  8. bone

    bone

    If they’re smart they make everyone whole pronto. They’re private but they’ve raised a lot of money this year and there was talk of a public IPO.

    2020 has been one hell of a year - COVID really helped Robinhood, but this security fiasco isn’t inspiring to say the least.

     
    #18     Oct 15, 2020
  9. Trader Curt

    Trader Curt

    Just goes to show you. Crypto exchanges aren't the only exchanges to get hacked!
     
    #19     Oct 15, 2020
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  10. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    650 294 4858 for their top service levels. Unless it was an inside job SIPC doesn't come into play. The press says the account data didn't come from a hack of their system.
    If it turns out it is an inside job there MAY be some E and O coverage.
     
    #20     Oct 15, 2020
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