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Discussion in 'Politics' started by VicBee, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

    Is that fact or your interpretation?
     
    #11     Nov 14, 2022
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Are AlQaeda decreased terrorist threats coming out of AFG cells a fact or an interpretation?
     
    #12     Nov 14, 2022
  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    1. As a matter of fact, AlQaeda is a Sunni Arab organization that came from Saudi Arabia. They took refuge in Afghanistan.
    2. The original objective in your mind ended when AlQaeda was sufficiently weakened and OBL killed. The fact that we stayed so much longer perhaps suggest the objective wasn't strictly surgical.
     
    #13     Nov 14, 2022
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    1. Does it matter? OBL was in AFG and AFG cell was responsible for 911. Them being international and Saudi backed doesn't change that fact.
    2. I never said objectives did not change, only the purpose of the troops being there and when they were basically done. The conversation of whether attempts at reconstruction and setting up a system of government that would be rejected unless we stayed for 50 yrs is a separate one.
     
    #14     Nov 14, 2022
  5. VicBee

    VicBee

    It matters when you muddle the facts, taking shortcuts to make your point. We went in not to take out AlQaeda but to take out the Taliban who were harboring an AlQaeda cell. Despite all our efforts (troops, funding, time) we couldn't eliminate the Taliban who had plenty of home grown and Pakistani support, so we left.
     
    #15     Nov 14, 2022
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Now who's muddling the facts to make a point?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/20/ret.afghan.bush/
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-sep-22-mn-48537-story.html

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    #16     Nov 14, 2022
  7. VicBee

    VicBee

    #17     Nov 14, 2022
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Or, without revisionism, the Taliban chose a side and got in our way of getting OBL & AQ.
     
    #18     Nov 14, 2022
  9. VicBee

    VicBee

    Except we stayed far longer after getting rid of OBL and Al Queda because we wanted to rid off the Taliban from Afghanistan. Not your story.
     
    #19     Nov 15, 2022
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Did I stutter?

     
    #20     Nov 15, 2022