Athletes who take a knee or raise a fist in protest at Tokyo Olympics will face punishment: IOC

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 22, 2021.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    #51     Apr 22, 2021
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

  3. userque

    userque

    The truth is, we can never know.

    As I've argued previously in other discussions; we have no way to go back in time, redo it with different factors, to compare outcomes.

    This particular part of the debate is strictly a matter of opinion.

    IOW, I don't know for sure whether he was better or worse off. And neither does anyone else.

    But, in my mind, it didn't really matter to him, and thusly, it doesn't really matter to me.
     
    #53     Apr 22, 2021
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  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    There was nothing great he missed out on during the time he was banned.If anything it allowed other fighters to be built up so he got more credit after he beat them.
     
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    #54     Apr 22, 2021
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    He could've upped his number during this hiatus instead of fighting past his prime and racking up losses.
     
    #55     Apr 22, 2021
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    #56     Apr 22, 2021
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    He didn't need a bum of the month club like Louis.
     
    #57     Apr 22, 2021
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/columns/kellerman_max/281555.html


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    Heavyweight

    I know a lot of people like Joe Louis, but believe me, Louis over Muhammad Ali is an argument you will lose. Badly. If you want to debate it, catch me in my weekly chat room sessions on Friday afternoons at 1:30 p.m. ET, and I will be glad to get into it. Ali is the clear-cut top guy at heavy, and Louis is the clear-cut choice for the second slot. After Louis, the next tier includes Jack Johnson, Larry Holmes, George Foreman and Evander Holyfield. To round off the greatest heavyweights ever is the final tier, composed of Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano, Mike Tyson, Jack Dempsey, Sonny Liston, Jim Jeffries and Ezzard Charles. I am not suggesting that a prime Marciano or Charles would compete with the much larger prime Mike Tyson -- they would not. Marciano, however, proved to be as great a heavyweight in the 1950's as Tyson has been in the 80's and 90's. Should Tyson somehow win back the title, his place among the all-time heavyweight greats will rise.
     
    #58     Apr 22, 2021
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    yet Ali couldn't fight for 3 yrs in his prime w/o a boss.
     
    #59     Apr 22, 2021
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    #60     Apr 22, 2021