Atlanta Fed Sees GDP Rocketing to 5.4% in First Quarter

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  1. SteveM

    SteveM

    #21     Feb 27, 2018
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  2. Max E.

    Max E.

    #22     Feb 27, 2018
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Shakes Magic 8 Ball...

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    #23     Feb 27, 2018
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  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Jem was the only person who actually believed this.
     
    #24     Feb 27, 2018
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    :):):)
     
    #25     Feb 27, 2018
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  6. SteveM

    SteveM

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...lerson-exit-tariff-worries-idUSKCN1GP1GB?il=0

    Atlanta Fed lowers U.S. first quarter GDP growth view below 2 percent

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. economy is on track to expand at a 1.9 percent annualized rate in the first quarter following the February data on domestic retail sales and consumer prices, the Atlanta Federal Reserve’s GDPNow forecast model showed on Wednesday.

    The latest estimate on gross domestic product was slower than the 2.5 percent growth pace calculated on March 9, the Atlanta Fed said.
     
    #26     Mar 14, 2018
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    From 5.3 to 1.8%,





    This must be a case of "Tweet Something." (Given what had happened last night).

    Only other tweet so far is the usually garbage,

     
    #27     Mar 26, 2018
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    Jem, sweetie pie, I feel like I have to constantly step in to protect you from the real world. So here I go again, just doing my duty. First make sure you never get caught comparing one persons nominal GDP estimate against another's real GDP estimate. At the beginning of a year the estimates for the year are often wildly off. The Fed uses Real GDP when they quote it (the nominal GDP is reserved for Donald, Infowars, and Rush, except when they are quoting the Fed. Estimates before the end of the first quarter are always bullshit of course. You can expect real for 2018 to be on the highside of 2.5 -3.5 . If you forced me to guess today I'd say it will come in at 2.6-3.1 Split the difference and you get 2.9 . I'll put as much as 35 cents on that. Now you already know that in a fiat money regime government deficit equals the additional money spent into the economy over the amount taken back out via taxes and fees. The Trump admin is leaving a big chunk of extra money in the economy. If this was distributed on the buy side it could cause a lot of inflation. However, it is distributed with a skew to the supply side, so it's inflation effect will be more muted then if you just turned a bunch of red necks loose at a Monster Truck dealer. In the GDP formula government spending looms large and positive, so when the Spendthrift Republicans are in charge you can always count on a nice GDP bump from unbridled spending on themselves. The Republicans also like to cut personal taxes (mostly at the high end of course), so that gooses the deficit and thus the GDP because it leaves a lot more money in the economy than is taken back out. Of course there is going to be some up ticks in inflation because of the Obama recovery and hence full employment is nearing. But Republicans are very good at keeping wages down, and labor in their place. It's a Republican specialty. After all, we must not forget that America was built of cheap labor. (A bumper sticker to that effect would be appropriate, don't you think?) It helps to have all the extra money spent into the economy go to the top end of incomes, so inflation will be contained. That extra money at the top doesn't get spent, it just gets saved and invested. That adds to the GDP more than it subtracts via inflation, compared to demand side stimulus which also increases nominal GDP via stimulated consumption, but balances that with greater inflation. But this is a midterm election year, so by December Spence could be President and Trump taking ping pong lessons courtesy of the tax payer. So the bottom line here, honey, is that we'll have to wait until after the midterm election to even attempt a somewhat accurate projection. At this point there is only one thing we can all count on: Mexico is NOT paying for that Damn Wall!.
     
    #28     Mar 26, 2018
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  9. jem

    jem

    I can guess you are paid by the post and you submit that garbage to your pay masters betting no one will care that it was illogical, non responsive and filled with red herrings / strawmen. If you wish to have a serious economic discussion. Get qualified and get a degree and maybe you will cease being a leftist laughing stock who writes irrelevant economic crap. You really need to stick with science where you seem to have some bona fides.


    2. you have a habit of getting everything you write about the law and everything you write about economics virtually 100 percent wrong.

    a. you were the one trying blame income mal distribution as it impacted the poor on Regan's on tax policies. I had to explain to you there are now 60 million new americans and the bottom half of the country does not even pay income taxes so their is no way their mal distribution was impacted by Reagan raising their taxes. (that was one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen a smart person like you write. I was very krugmanesque. )

    b. Recently you moronically tried to compare Trumps cuts to Reagan's tax cuts again. so I had to present this to you...

    https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/11/daily-chart-13
    or read this article...
    Chuck Schumer: Donald Trump's tax reform is nothing like Ronald Reagan's
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...onald-reagans-chuck-schumer-column/803754001/
    The 1986 tax act went through a bipartisan process and eliminated corporate tax breaks. Trump's is being rushed through and favors the rich.
    see more at the links.
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...or-u-s-growth-hiring-and-stocks.316957/page-2

    4. Note... I quoted an article which was citing the regional FEDs GDPnow forecast it had nothing to do with comparing Breitbart or Trumps nominal forecasts. You must made that irrelevant detritus up. Please... cease misrepresenting my arguments. I know why the other lefty drones do it all the time... by I hold you to a higher standard of intellectual integrity.

    5. Note... I was well aware this forecast might not pan out... which is why I wrote...
    "If".
    I wrote... "If the economy improves strongly... it will prove it for thinking people.




     
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    #29     Mar 26, 2018
  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    He he he. Krugman and I are fellow Dummys. o_O

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    |Reagan|
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    #30     Mar 26, 2018