Battle of the AI's

Discussion in 'Artificial Intelligence' started by MarkBrown, Aug 18, 2025 at 4:59 PM.

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  1. I used to use VSCode for everything until I tried JetBrains. It is not that you'll get anything you don't know, but life is a lot easier with their IDEs.
     
  2. nz_melon

    nz_melon

    Care to provide more details of what has become easier? Honestly curious, always interested in hearing about better approaches...

     
  3. That IDE made me "not hate Python that much", just enough to use it only for a particular project.
    If you try to make a Raspberry PI work with electronics, Python is a great choice.
     
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  4. Debugging and AI integration, mostly.
    Debugging C++ and TypeScript with VSCode is a pain.
     
  5. nz_melon

    nz_melon

    My entire research architecture is written with python and uses python libraries. My algorithmic trading platform and manual trade execution engine is also written in python. And I am currently working on transitioning to a web based frontend with Svelte 5. I come from C++/C# and love python. Nobody can convince me of using R ever again for research. Python can't be beat for rapid prototyping and the flexibility it offers in research. The backend for trading is rock-solid as well and plenty fast enough.

     
  6. nz_melon

    nz_melon

    Those buzzwords don't convince me. But I will read up on what Jetbrains has to offer for type script. Vs code works perfectly for me in Windows, using WSL2 and Ubuntu. All my development work runs on that linux container. Claude CLI, Gemini CLI, Augement AI, all perfectly integrated. There is no way Jetbrains offers more in that regard. For C++/C# I would never use either, I would use Visual Studio. Am open to learn about Jetbrains making life easier for frontend development but won't be fooled about AI integration or C++/C# development.

     
  7. Python is a shit language.

    I haven't used Windows for a decade, so I can't comment on how it is to develop there these days.

    Go on, use what you like.
     
  8. nz_melon

    nz_melon

    I mentioned Windows only to demonstrate that today's frameworks and IDEs are not linked to a specific OS anymore. All my development takes place in linux (WSL2/Ubuntu instance). The vs code IDE connects to WSL. Python is a shit language,...,ok. Only stating that does not really bestow a whole lot of confidence in your points (can hardly be called an argument). I asked some fair questions, I believe, what specifically you like better using a Jetbrains product and why and all you came back with was some broad generalizations. If python was so shit then the world's leading AI researchers would not use it in combination with cuda and jax. Go, Julia, or Rust are used by a small handful of folks in that space. AI, data science, data engineering, research, all predominantly use python, some very popular software services like dropbox are based on python. You don't like it, that's ok, but calling it shit kind of shortchanges your own expertise that I believe you posses (Edit: but now begin to question...based on your subsequent replies...)

     
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  9. Alright, use Python then.
     
  10. nz_melon

    nz_melon

    I absolutely will, you could not provide one single argument in favor of Jetbrains or against python. I hope you don't work in sales or marketing.