Gaslighting? I don't even know what that means. Let me look it up. Ok, apparently its a term used by people who are offended when being called out for their own actions in an effort to avoid personal accountability. If that's the case the yes, I guess I am.
I don't know the inner workings of these YieldMax ETFs like msty but they trouble me. They are paying a ridiculously high dividend. What happens if the underlying (mstr) takes a nose dive? How secure are the dividends?
Hour after hour for the past 10 hours nothing but down. Pure selling pressure. Does that look bullish to you, or does it look like the rope is being laid around the ponzi boys necks?
That is impossible, because Bitcoin and Microstrategy both can only go up, forever. They will never go down. This is a game where we print fake dollars (Tethers) and prop up bitcoin and the US cabinet members along with the president are participating in this nice beautiful scheme to revolutionize the world.
There is nothing ridiculous about the returns. Read the prospectus...the dividend can include return of investor capital....otherwise it would not be sustainable. It's basically a covered call strategy geared towards maximizing investor income versus capital growth, which most other dividends are focused on.
But it's just capital eroding? At the end of say 3 years, you'll have received a lot of dividends but will be left with little capital? If you add the dividends and remaining capital, will you be worse off than if you'd held mstr for 3 years? The capital erosion is plain to see in this simple 1-year chart. msty down 30%; mstr up 150%. https://www.google.com/finance/quote/MSTY:NYSEARCA?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTmsr2zPiNAxXjWUEAHb78AOMQ3ecFegQIIRAT&comparison=NASDAQ:MSTR&window=1Y
It's the same with any investment once the price nose dives, same in you invested in nvda and it nose dives, or aapl, or the sp500 and it crashes like in 2020 or 2008 If you want safe perpetual high dividends, look into STRK and STRF, but they are trading above par, so the yields are less than 10% and 8%
You guys are so capital obsessed lol. Even when you are cherry picking MSTR it barely outperforms. 1-Year P&L Comparison — $100,000 Investment MSTY (With DRIP, Entry @ $34.33) Dividends Received: $92,385.96 (100% reinvested) Capital Loss (on original shares): −$41,845 (est.) Gain from DRIP Shares: +$96,804 (est.) Net P&L (Total Return): +$54,959 (+54.96%) Monthly Income (current): $18,390.21 Share Count Growth: 2,913 → ~7,443 Key Feature: Converts yield into equity during price declines — nearly tripled share count ⚖️ Risk Level: Moderate, options-based income strategy MSTR (Entry @ ~$1,420 → $3,550) Capital Gain: +$150,000 Dividends Received: $0 Net P&L (Total Return): +$150,000 (+150%) Monthly Income: $0 Key Feature: Aggressive capital growth, no income ⚖️ Risk Level: Very high, Bitcoin proxy stock ✅ Summary: MSTR wins on raw capital appreciation (+150%), but offers zero income MSTY still returns a strong +55% total, while converting yield into nearly $18K/month in income MSTY is the income engine; MSTR is the moonshot Let's not cherry pick! Worst-Case P&L Comparison — $100,000 Investment (with DRIP) MSTY (With DRIP, Bought @ $44.40 on Nov 20, 2024) Dividends Reinvested: $41,354.50 (100% DRIP) Capital Loss: −$53,153.15 Net P&L (Total Return): −$11,798.65 (−11.8%) Monthly Income (current): $9,162.81 Share Count Growth: 2,252 → ~3,708 Key Feature: Reinvested income buys more shares during decline — income nearly doubles ⚖️ Risk Level: Moderate, income-focused compounding strategy MSTR (Bought @ $539 — Recent High) Capital Loss: −$34,637 Dividends Received: $0 Net P&L (Total Return): −$34,637 (−34.6%) Monthly Income: $0 Key Feature: Pure capital risk — no income to offset drawdown ⚖️ Risk Level: Very high, speculative BTC proxy ✅ Summary: MSTY with DRIP cuts its net loss to −11.8%, with monthly income almost doubling to $9.1K MSTR delivers a deeper loss of −34.6% and no cash flow MSTY remains the better hedge in a worst-case entry — especially when compounding is active
Interesting. DRIP is a neat idea, essentially DCA. I suppose you could even use the dividends to buy mstr, instead of msty, and combine it with a bit of market timing (buying the dips).