BTC is correlated with the market - Doesn't that defeat the purpose of BTC?

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by OptionsOptionsOptions, Jun 16, 2022.

  1. Good1

    Good1

    It could go to zero if it breaks. If it doesn't break, and keeps performing as programmed, it will retain value as a secure store of value, with a relatively straight forward facility to move what is stored. That's two selling points, not just one. If you include the ability to subdivide into small bits, that's almost three selling points.

    Consider that stocks, themselves, are popular as stores of value, exactly what BTC offers. From there, it's possible to argue that BTC is an even better store of value.

    It could break if, for example, someone figured out how to hack into the average wallet, hacking past the 12, or 24 word seed.
     
    #11     Jun 16, 2022
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    • Below is a 6-month chart.
    • SPY red - BTC blue
    • I looks very correlated to me. They are following the same pattern, with BTC more volatile.


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    #12     Jun 16, 2022
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    You have some good points\
    but in no way is a bit con or crypto Cr*p ''exactlyLOL'' equal to stocks or store of value.
    Nor is bit con non traceable, but the good news is any gain\ the IRS want to know about + the tax lawyer says think carefully before you sign that on your IRS form.:D:D
     
    #13     Jun 16, 2022
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  3. Good1

    Good1

    Agree it is more traceable that was initially claimed by early fear mongers who acted like the USD was not used for crime or laundering the most. Monero seemed to have solved that, and i hear Litecoin later included the ability to go untraceable and is currently being discluded here and there because of it. They could "break" if they are banned from exchanges, and if there is no way to trade into/out of them on decentralized exchanges. Apparently, in September 2020, the IRS offered $625,000 to anyone who could crack the Monero network. Someone claims to have done it, but Monero insiders say that is bunk. Whether we, as individuals are required to file IRS forms against ourselves is for another thread.
     
    #14     Jun 16, 2022
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  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Because it is true? I explained it already but here we go again:

    Since HFs moved in (about 12-18 months ago) BTC became a high beta tech stock. And as such, it is highly correlated with the markets. Occasionally a news item makes it go up or down unrelated to the markets, but 95% of the time you might as well trade QQQ on margin, same results.

    So you could say that BTC became the victim of its own success, and be careful what you wish for. (2 years ago crypto fans wanted more HF involvement) Well, they got it and as an unintended consequence, it stopped being a market hedge.
     
    #15     Jun 16, 2022
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    Actually the IRS may not care about some pennies as long as its consistent.
    Meaning what?? WE can round down like $100. 49 or $100.499 to $100\LOL:D:D
     
    #16     Jun 16, 2022
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    The purpose of BTC is currency. No, investment. No, collector's item. No, pixie dust.

    Wait, I am getting confused here...
     
    #17     Jun 16, 2022
  7. Good1

    Good1

    Do we round down the BTC that fell off our boat and sank to the bottom on our hardwallet? :D:D
     
    #18     Jun 16, 2022

  8. It's purpose has been served. Moving cash from the pockets of greedy dreamers into the pockets of con men
     
    #19     Jun 16, 2022
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