California now has the worst COVID-19 spread in US

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Dec 27, 2020.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao


    Ah, well that settles it.
     
    #41     Dec 28, 2020
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  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    My issue are with those that know the math that the overall Covid-19 hospitalizations / ICUs / Deaths are correct but they still post misinformation that align with whatever conspiracy theory that is out there.

    Those types of individuals that then try to spread that misinformation on social media are very dangerous and one day I'm sure will actually be a crime and people will be prosecuted for such...

    Just as they were in 1918 during the Influenza Pandemic. Yeah, people back then were actually fined and arrested.

    Seriously, not a lot of stories about the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic but reading my great grandfather's diary during the 1918 - 1920 Pandemic...

    People were arrested when he was in Florida for business (cigar business) towards the end of World War I....a neighbor of his friend whom invited him to partner in business was arrested for "spitting" because it spread the virus. :D
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  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    My narrative is you cannot have a functioning economy when disease is widespread.
     
    #43     Dec 28, 2020
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  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    Well actually I’m surprised you even acknowledged there is excess deaths. That’s something. We are actually tracking month to month, more total deaths than from the Spanish flu.
     
    #44     Dec 28, 2020
  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Actually, the Spanish Flu of 2018 proved that widespread disease can also impact War decisions of a President and any other White House administration decisions when the disease infects the President.

    https://www.history.com/news/woodrow-wilson-1918-pandemic-world-war-i

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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    A few more articles reflecting on the 1918 Flu epidemic...

    Christmas 1918: How Americans celebrated holidays during last pandemic
    https://nypost.com/2020/12/24/christmas-1918-how-americans-celebrated-holidays-during-last-pandemic/

    For churchgoers during the Covid-19 pandemic, a deadly lesson from the 1918 flu
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/health/churches-covid-1918-lesson-wellness/index.html

    And yes, they had the equivalent of people hyping bleach and hydroxychloroquine back then also...
    A Century After Phony Flu Ads, Companies Hype Dubious COVID Cures
    https://news.yahoo.com/century-phony-flu-ads-companies-131726601.html
     
    #46     Dec 28, 2020
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  8. gwb-trading

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    #48     Dec 28, 2020
  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    I had no idea Wilson caught Spanish flu! Interesting stuff. Trump should have used that when he caught Covid.
     
    #49     Dec 28, 2020
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  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Another fact or strong belief about the virus infected President Wilson during the peace treaty with Germany...

    He uncharacteristically made some awkward (as stated in my grandfather's diary...he uses the phrase "strange") decisions in Treaty of Versailles, the Paris Peace Conference ... the treaty laid the psychological and economic groundwork imposed heavy debt payments from Germany and what many Germans today believe had humiliated Germany in which resulted then in the rise of the Nazism...

    All of this occurring during the infamous Spanish Flu.

    Simply, in some ways, the Spanish Flu impacted the decisions of President Wilson in what he wanted in the Treaty of Versailles which ultimately was a major factor in the start of World War II. In some ways, WW II was payback / revenge that little man Hitler could not get over about what happen in WW I.

    Makes me wonder what the little man President Trump (once infected / hospitalized with Covid-19) will do after a humiliating defeat in the U.S. Elections...

    Maybe encourage his supporters via his rhetoric to start a Civil War but not like the first Civil War. Different...bombings, government protests and attacks on individual government officials that he believes didn't help to keep him in office ???

    Maybe put up so many roadblocks by Trump himself for a peaceful transition to Biden / Harris administration that it intentionally makes America weak to outside threats and inside threats...latter such as home grown terrorists ???

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    Terms of the Treaty of Versailles

    The Treaty of Versailles established a blueprint for the postwar world. One of the most controversial terms of the treaty was the War Guilt clause, which explicitly and directly blamed Germany for the outbreak of hostilities. The treaty forced Germany to disarm, to make territorial concessions, and to pay reparations to the Allied powers in the staggering amount of $5 billion.

    Although US President Woodrow Wilson was opposed to such harsh terms, he was outmaneuvered by French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau. France was the only Allied power to share a border with Germany, and therefore suffered the bulk of the devastation and casualties from the German war machine. The French aimed to weaken Germany to the greatest extent possible.

    May 7, 1919

    Perhaps the most humiliating portion of the treaty for defeated Germany was Article 231, commonly known as the "War Guilt Clause," which forced the German nation to accept complete responsibility for initiating World War I. Germany was required to make enormous reparation payments.

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    #50     Dec 28, 2020
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