Chicago suffers deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Jun 8, 2020.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    In the American justice system murders like Eric Garner,Brionna Taylor,Timir Rice etc are justified if you have a badge.Thats why people are marching in the streets today.
     
    #21     Jun 9, 2020
  2. You always have some excuse. Every single dead black man in Chicago, killed by cops or otherwise, just or unjust, was done under the leadership and guidance of a Democrat Mayor, a democratic city council, a Democrat appointed police chief, a Democrat prosecutor and a Democrat AG. Been that way for nearly a century. And the entire system of police and education is run by democratic union members who vote democratic each and every election. The city is an abject failure of democratic politics and policy.
     
    #22     Jun 9, 2020
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  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Tony is just parroting the talking points he gets in his email every morning. You can always tell when he has an original thought because you read it and go "wait, what is he talking about?"
     
    #23     Jun 9, 2020
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  4. NY_HOOD

    NY_HOOD

    more whites are killed by the police than blacks. the amounts of blacks that get shot by police is an extremely small percentage which is amazing compared to how many are arrested for crimes.
    your facts are biased to make black criminals look like victims when in fact the whites and other law abiding blacks are the true victims.
     
    #24     Jun 9, 2020
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Not knowing who the killer is is not an excuse.The Chicago PD are incompetent,no argument from me there
     
    #25     Jun 9, 2020
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Whites are 70% of the population,blacks 13


    Death by cops is the 6th cause of death for black men ,not for white men
     
    #26     Jun 9, 2020
  7. They don't know who the killer is because more often than not they get zero cooperation from the community itself. This is because the community is afraid of gang reprisals. That is the result of left leaning prosecutors and judges who offer leniency in sentencing, and a system offering early releases. Arrest the thug, slap thug on hands, put thug back on street to terrorize community again and again.
     
    #27     Jun 9, 2020
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- St. Louis has for years suffered the unwanted distinction of having one of the nation’s highest homicide rates, but it’s Missouri’s other big city that is on pace for perhaps the deadliest year on record.

    Kansas City police report 68 homicides so far this year, compared to 56 in the same period a year ago. The city ended 2019 with 150 homicides, three short of the 1993 record. This year, Kansas City is on pace to top the record, and that doesn’t account for the fact that summer months are typically the most deadly.

    Neither police nor experts believe the rash of killings -- the vast majority involving guns -- is connected to the coronavirus pandemic. Nationally, most cities are on about the same pace as last year -- St. Louis among them -- or seeing a slight decline.

    Non-lethal shootings also are on the rise. Kansas City Police Chief Richard Smith said in a blog post earlier this month that 204 victims had been shot but survived in 2020, compared to 160 at the same time in 2019.

    Police spokesman Jacob Becchina said that just as in past years, most homicides are caused by an argument or a drug dispute. And, just as in past years, solving the crimes is made difficult by a lack of cooperation from witnesses, many of whom mistrust the criminal justice system and simultaneously fear retaliation.

    The demographics also remain the same: Most victims as well as most suspects are young black men.

    Ken Novak, a criminologist at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, offered this perspective: Kansas City’s per capita homicide rate last year was about 30 deaths per 100,000 residents. For black men in their early 20s, the fatality rate was about 450 per 100,000.

    “That’s more dangerous than being a soldier in a war zone,” Novak said, noting that the death rate among soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan was about 317 per 100,000.

    “It’s sobering,” Novak said.

    Kansas City gained national acclaim in 2014, when a program called the No Violence Alliance was credited with a big decrease in homicides. The city saw just 86 killings that year, the fewest in four decades. The program featured a “focused deterrence” model that involved officers going directly to people with violent histories and telling them to change their ways, while also offering help with finding a job and getting job training or an education.

    Just as quickly as it worked, it didn’t. Homicide totals gradually rose to 151 in 2018 and 150 last year, when the No Violence Alliance was dropped.

    Three of the nation’s 12 worst homicide rates involve Missouri cities -- No. 1 St. Louis, No. 5 Kansas City and No. 12 Springfield. Both Novak and Becchina cited the state's lenient gun laws as a possible contributing factor.

    “It really puts law enforcement behind the eight ball,” Novak said. “That has to be part of the conversation in my opinion.”

    Just 35 of the 67 Kansas City homicides have been solved this year even though, in many cases, officers are on the scene within minutes. Becchina said victims and witnesses too often simply refuse to cooperate.

    Smith, in his blog, noted that 10 people were shot but survived from May 11 to May 17. Eight of those victims refused to cooperate or press charges. Overall, he said, about two-thirds of shooting victims are uncooperative.

    Novak said the lack of cooperation, though frustrating for police, is understandable because victims and witnesses worry not only about retaliation against them, but against their families. Many victims and witnesses also are simply unwilling to work with police after decades of mistrust.

    “When people are cynical toward the criminal justice system, they are far less likely to cooperate as a witness,” Novak said.
     
    #28     Jun 9, 2020
  9. Branos

    Branos

    Despite the significant progress that the country and society have made in this direction in recent decades, the problem of racism remains. This is absolutely clear to African Americans, who had no doubt about it.
    But it has also become quite obvious for many white Americans.
    At the same time, there are also white people who don't hide their racism, consider it something in the order of things and are even proud of it. Many white Americans who don't recognize the reality of racism or doubt it are often not honest with themselves.
    In public, they claim to be non-racist, but still maintain racist attitudes. It was that latent racism that was perhaps the greatest threat.
    With those who remain racist, often without even knowing it, it is more and more complicated.
    Among black Americans, of course, there is no unanimity on what to do next either.
    Some of them understand that overcoming racism requires methodical work, long-term efforts, and dialogue. They give preference to peaceful ways of fighting for their rights, remaining within the tradition established by Martin Luther King.
    This part of the population understands that action should be taken through education, information, anti-racism counter-propaganda, political reforms, legislative innovations.
    Radicalism, supporters of intolerance and even forceful action remain in the African American environment. This current isn't something new, unusual.
     
    #29     Jun 9, 2020
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  10. d08

    d08

    Their slogan is obviously Black Lives Matter Only If They're Killed By Non-Blacks. Slight mouthful but I'm sure they'll adopt it.
     
    #30     Jun 9, 2020
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