Chicago suffers deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Jun 8, 2020.

  1. d08

    d08

    That would imply they commit equal amounts of crime, which is simply not true. Blacks seem to more easily adopt the thug lifestyle. I understand the attraction but it also implies stupidity. You'll likely end up dead or in jail and that's exactly what happens.
     
    #31     Jun 9, 2020
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  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    That would imply they have equal opportunities , which is simply not true.
     
    #32     Jun 9, 2020
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Poverty,poor education and racism makes it easy to adopt to the thug lifestyle
     
    #33     Jun 9, 2020
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  4. d08

    d08

    Well, they're in a relatively wealthy country with plenty of opportunities. Poverty over many generations doesn't make sense unless it's a war zone. Would you say countries like Poland or Romania had it easier in the past three decades? They've seen extreme poverty and starvation isn't unheard of. Yet they don't complain day in, day out.

    Racism is a poor excuse, racism exists everywhere, you cannot define your life by it. In a true racist society, you would have segregation when in reality there are plenty of wealthy blacks in the top 1%.
    Education, I'm not a huge believer in education creating productive people. It's simply an enabler, you cannot take an idiot, give him an education and assume he'd do well.

    Equal opportunities, you're right, in many areas they have advantages (universities for example). There will never be equality, never has been, and it has nothing to do with skin color. You can find anecdotal cases where it happens but when it comes to bottom line, it's irrelevant.

    I see Europeans leaving for US and money isn't their complaint ever. I'm not talking about the smartest people either, just barely average. In fact they can afford a decent life and have savings. Consider that I'm talking about immigrants who aren't even fluent in the language.
     
    #34     Jun 9, 2020
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    For white people

    Slavery and Jim Crow has been in The USA longer than it has not





    How many whites? How many blacks?

    True but class sizes,tutoring,school supplies,computers,extra curricular activities etc are much better in white schools than black schools


    I agree there will never be equality but the inequality is drastic


    Privilege comes with white skin in The USA even if you're from Euroupe
     
    #35     Jun 9, 2020
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  6. NY_HOOD

    NY_HOOD

    Tony Stark. are you a black man ?
     
    #36     Jun 9, 2020
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    No
     
    #37     Jun 9, 2020
  8. d08

    d08

    Alright, let's try this.

    It's a wealthy country even for blacks, saying otherwise is simply ignorant. Or maybe you haven't traveled much and seen how much of the world lives.

    Abolished in 1965, really, you're going back 5 and a half decades to find discrimination. They are irrelevant in day-to-day life for someone born in the 1980s.

    So you want equity and not equality. I suppose you'll agree that the system is also racist against whites then, Asians being more represented in the wealthiest groups. Let's not forget to enforce equity in the NBA, "white man quota" is only fair. Sigh...

    Some anecdotal personal evidence. I attended a school that was in heavy disrepair, heavy windows fell off the frame one time. Most of it hadn't been renovated for many decades. Extra curricular activities? What are those...
    School supplies you buy yourself, so you have what you can afford. Tutoring comes from your parent's pocket and rarely can people afford it.

    The people who graduated rarely ended up as dealers or thugs, most are fairly average.

    Bottom line, school or education quality doesn't force anyone into thug life. It can harm your chances in life but will not define you.


    As stated, inequality is everywhere. Even in majority black US cities. What could be blamed there? If not skin color then height? nose size?

    I won't reply to that as that's just an opinion based on nothing. I'll tell the white trailer trash to start using their white privilege more.
     
    #38     Jun 9, 2020
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  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I suspect this is the first time someone has systematically dismantled his racism argument.
     
    #39     Jun 9, 2020
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  10. d08

    d08

    Also. We can play "what would you do". If I lived in the Chicago ghettos, I'd save a few weeks rent (don't tell me it's impossible), buy a bus ticket anywhere where I want to go and can afford to live. Unemployment is rising but there are still jobs. In a more major city you will land on something. Then I'd forget about the slum life forever. Better option than getting shot.
     
    #40     Jun 9, 2020