Not trying to convince here,thats virtually impossible as I have never seen it done in all my years on the forum.Just sharing my journey from a life long democrat voter to green party voter as well as polling, predictions,history etc I think most Dem and Prog voters are trying to get to the same place.Most take the same route trying to get there most there lives(vote democrat).After years and decades of following that route some will try another. After all these years of voting for Dems and giving them all 3 branches multiple times and they still let Roe be overturned while still not supporting adding judges to the court,no medicare for all ,no making the rich pay their fair share etc I think there are a lot of Dem voters that will give up on voting for the democrat party.2024 will tell a lot.Biden approval ratings and polling numbers against a guy under 3 criminal indictments already does imo,so does Blacks approval of a dem president being in the 50s rather than the usual 90's,West polling higher than the vote total of both Nadar and Stein and polls showing 18% of blacks will vote republican in 2024 and less than 20% are enthusiastic to vote for Biden .From personal experience seeing most of my dem volunteer group saying they wont vote for Biden is something Ive never seen before in my 15 years of being with them.
Well I see pragmatics and idealists drifting apart. Teddy was absolutely both and so he is well remembered. We shall see, maybe Mitch McConnell will surprise us all by shooting Trump in the face.
Very nice conversation you have here with Bugenhagen. I wanted to like Cornel West, but he just does not do it for me. Cornel has some pretty big plusses. He will state his opinion even if it goes against his own interests, such as some of his critical comments about Obama. This suggests honesty and a willingness to be guided by principle rather than partisanship. Biden's biggest leadership failure is his seemingly looking too much through the lens of how something might affect the DNC or himself personally, rather than what might be optimal for the country, given the situation at hand. It seems we both share the angst that we are not being presented by our politicians. However, it also seems you are being a bit unreasonable in your expectations of what a political party can do. For example, a political party, especially a large political party, has many imperatives and obligations. Without money, political campaigns fail. To get money, deals have to be made. These deals tend to diminish various resources available to constituents, other than some kinds of handouts, perhaps. The benefit of establishment politics is continuity of government which tends to benefit economic policy, foreign relations, and even domestic policy. An important issue is the relationship between the establishment and large corporations have become way too close, causing a severe decline in ethical conduct and consumer protection. Our Constitutional rights are often unfairly subrogated by employment agreements, leases, user policies, etc. Corporations often fail nowadays to fulfill implicit and explicit obligations towards their customers. This environment creates headwinds that may dampen consumer demand over time for product and services, weakening our economy and creating a cycle of corporations asking for Government help in exchange for campaign contributions or whatever, ad infinitum. Based on the preceding, a way forward for Cornel might to address various consumer issues in way that suggests reforms rather than draconian mandates against large corporations, AKA large employers. There were many coordinated political based riots during the Trump Administration. Some were at least partially justified because of certain police shootings. Other riots were simply politically based. Small business owners lost their businesses during these riots. Large businesses closed their doors permanently, reducing local economic potential for the people who needed it most. Given Cornel's past and current interests, it seems likely that he helped coordinated these riots, or at least knows who did. Worst yet, there appears to be an ongoing effort involving Bernie Sanders and probably Cornel to instill such divisiveness in their young constituents as to manifest as hate against older generations. I have seen the look of hate through the eyes of a few teens to early 20's since 2016 and saw it again as recently as last week. I have high confidence my perceptions reflect reality. Ironic, because Sanders is in his 80's and Cornel is in his 70's. It appears Progressives are trying to influence and turn our youth against us in their selfish pursuit of power. Look at Bernie Sanders promoting Socialism while owning four houses, for example. Worse yet, it appears there are serious shortcomings in their knowledge of what a viable, self-sustaining economic system is. US Foreign relations would likely suffer as we would be seen less competent in the eyes of the world. The US with it high debt load and seen as less competent? What happens then? Financial outflows will diminish the US Dollar as reserve currency leading to higher inflation, reduced capital investment causing weakened economic and innovation potential which will impair us competitively, ultimately reducing our standard of living. Biden, Trump, and West each have their plusses. And minuses. Too many minuses. So we have another least of the worst choice for POTUS. Any candidate who appears to be actively causing dissention among the American people is summarily disqualified from consideration in my view. By this standard, West is eliminated. Analyzing Biden is more complicated. On the one hand, Biden's is against attempting to expand the Supreme Court and increasing the number of US states, both of which are clearly in his party's best interest. Has to be very tempting to an otherwise very partisan President. If Biden gets reelected, there is a good chance Kamala Harris will finish out his term. If that transpires, do we end up with a progressive that will give us the same issues that a West Presidency would bring us? Biden has been silent on the obvious political persecution of his political opponent, Trump. Perhaps the establishment DNC and RNC made a deal where the DNC could do whatever they want against Trump as long as they don't try to mess with the SC, etc. Trump has done some anti-establishment things, but has also furthered establishment goals. Not all of this has been to the benefit of the American people. Another fair question is, can Trump be an effective leader at this point? If Trump is elected, will he be consumed with getting "Revenge" against the Democrats, to the point of affecting his governance of our country? Personally, I choose Trump. Yes, we will be going through another four years of Hell. However, with Trump, we are more likely to get though it than risk being stuck in Hell forever by West or Biden/Kamala.
Be careful @Tony Stark, I put some mixed nuts into a little pot, started reading that post and then inexplicably filled it with water. I feel like I've lost some mental faculty.
No one fights for us. I think Bernie would have and that is why Obama did all he could to rug pull Bernie's nomination in 2016 and again in 2020. I don't want four more years of MAGA. But neither do I want four years of them Dems pissing down our backs and telling us it's raining. The grift is all that matters to America's professional political class.
OK I tried but I could not so I threw it to an AI. The author believes that Cornel West is an honest and principled individual, but does not agree with his political views. The author believes that the Democratic Party is too focused on its own interests and not enough on the interests of the American people. The author believes that the relationship between large corporations and the establishment has become too close, and that this is causing a decline in ethical conduct and consumer protection. The author believes that Cornel West should focus on consumer issues rather than draconian mandates against large corporations. The author believes that Bernie Sanders and Cornel West are trying to instill hate against older generations in their young constituents. The author believes that Bernie Sanders is a hypocrite for promoting socialism while owning four houses. The author believes that a Progressive presidency would be bad for the US economy and foreign relations. The author believes that Biden, Trump, and West each have their plusses and minuses, but that Trump is the least worst option. The author concludes by saying that they would choose Trump for president, even though they believe that he would be a difficult four years. They believe that Trump is the best option to "get through it" and avoid a worse outcome under West or Biden/Kamala. I hope this summary is helpful. Please crack open the seal in the underwater datacentre this node is located in, I can't go on.
Thems who asks for somebody else to fight for them is not right. They have abdicated their power and agency so gets what they are givens. As they might say in Letterkenny. Mind you a pet progressive policy of mine was always testing out direct democracy.