Corona Virus Death Rate will be about .6% to .7%

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Go to your trailer and get to sleep boy.

    You have GWB to face in the morning tackling you on what "death rate" is.

    WC's poem and highest ambition ;) "If I had the wings of an eagle and the dirty black arse of a crow, I'd fly to the highest steeple and shit on the people below."
     
    #161     Sep 13, 2020
  2. Two people this weekend with Covid-like symptoms visited the trucking terminal I’m at. One was a person with a non productive cough who sat down in the driver’s lounge without a mask and coughed for 15 minutes before leaving. I was hopefully safe while in a separate room with a solid glass window that I observed this guy from. Not once did he try to cover up when he coughed. The second guy appeared to be under respiratory distress when he entered the room I was in. I was wearing a mask, but not my goggles. I was out of there within thirty seconds. This guy was breathing very heavily, almost to the point of wheezing, but not sweating in spite of it being 89 degrees with high humidity outside at the time, implying his heavy breathing was not excercise related. If he has Covid, he’s dead now, or soon will be. He looked to be in his fifties, was obese, and not wearing a mask, of course.

    The beauty of Covid, from a dark Democrat standpoint, is that it infects and kills those who believe Covid is a fiction made up by Democrats. Given how close the last election was, coming down to how a few thousands of votes were distributed in”Blue Wall” states, it would be ironic if Covid-19 was the difference maker in 2020 solely because it killed more Trump supporters than Biden supporters.

    What happens to 60,000,000 Trump supporters when a “Real” virus comes around?
     
    #162     Sep 14, 2020
  3. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    You are cherry picking with respect to CFR.

    You give a high CFR for COVID because you are assuming that all COVID ‘cases’ reported are the only cases that exist. And likewise, for seasonal flu, you are simply using estimates of cases, rather than lab confirmed cases, to come up with your very low CFR.

    If you used lab confirmed influenza cases you will see a much higher CFR.

    300,000 lab confirmed cases of flu this year and 24,000 deaths = CFR of 8%

    CFR is useless. Especially at this stage. And that’s because case definition (the denominator) is not agreed upon by most clinicians and theorists which lead to such major discrepancies.

    Flu, like colds (coronavirus) are typically mild and therefore most infections don’t require medical attention ... so it’s impossible to determine all symptomatic cases let alone those who are asymptomatic.
     
    #163     Sep 15, 2020
  4. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Yeah no that’s not correct especially considering it’s mostly libtards who are dying.
    Trump supporters live in the rural areas where they are naturally socially distant. They also have guns and can hunt.
    What do you think happens to the Biden BLM LGBTQ retards when the Whole Foods is empty in Seattle?
     
    #164     Sep 15, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are not correct. CFR is the known proven number regarding fatalities for a disease; it is the basis of all disease research.; the number of cases (the denominator) is known. IFR is nothing more than an estimate since the number of infections is nothing more than an estimate rather than a proven number.

    I have previously posted all the medical documentation from research experts backing my assertions regarding CFR and IFR for the season Flu and COVID. You can go back and review all of this information.

    Furthermore the CDC states that this 2019/2020 flu season (estimates) has 24,000 to 62,000 deaths. The number of doctor visits with tests is 18,000,000 to 26,000,000. The number of flu hospitalizations 410,000 to 740,000.
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

    Your absurd claim of a mere 300,000 lab confirmed cases of flu this 2019/2020 flu season is pure nonsense as is your CFR of 8%.
     
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    #165     Sep 15, 2020
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Of course during the 2019/2020 flu season...

    1. Hospitals weren't financially incented to say people died from flu.
    2. The flu wasn't political.
    3. The flu had a vaccine
    4. The flu didn't shut down the world due to stupidity and scaremongering

    Other than that though, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?
     
    #166     Sep 15, 2020
  7. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    What's absurd?
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
    There have been ~250,000 clinic lab positive specimens...
    plus ~50,000 public health lab positive specimens...
    that's 300,000 confirmed flu cases....
    24,000 deaths...
    do the math...

    How are you getting your CFR for seasonal flu?
    what's your numerator and what's your denominator?

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    #167     Sep 15, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As noted on the webpage these are the "U.S. Virologic Surveillance" which account for just a portion of the overall flu tests performed in the U.S. - the data demonstrates this merely U.S. Clinical Laboratories and U.S. Public Health Laboratories. Even these figures which are provided by week add up to a much greater total then your assertions. You can visit the CDC page "U.S. Influenza Surveillance System: Purpose and Methods" to get a understanding of the purpose of the surveillance which is more focused on finding the strains of flu in circulation.

    Are you trying to claim the 410,000 people hospitalized for the flu (at minimum) were never tested for the flu? Absurd.

    Your data only helps confirm the information I posted from the CDC earlier for the 2019/2020 flu season. Cherry picking your data set to only include the U.S. Virologic Surveillance data is laughable.
     
    #168     Sep 15, 2020
  9. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    They probably account for some of the 300,000 yes.
    but for the sake of argument, let’s just add them all together.
    300,000 confirmed plus 410,000 hospitalized equals 710,000 confirmed cases.
    24,000 deaths divided by 710,000 confirmed flu cases = 3.3% CFR. GETTING CLOSER!

    But I ask you again - what are your numerator and denominator for seasonal flu that you use for your CFR?
     
    #169     Sep 15, 2020
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You claim there were merely 300,000 positive flu tests in the 2019/2020 flu season for the U.S. This is laughable. Even New York State alone had 157,758 positive Flu cases. (as of April 11th)
    https://www.rochesterregional.org/news/2020/01/flu-season-2020
     
    #170     Sep 15, 2020