Dealing with EUR debit

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by hilmy83, Jan 24, 2023.

  1. hilmy83

    hilmy83

    This is for those that trade Eurex futures with USD based account with AMP.

    So I took a hit on micro dax FDXS trade earlier this month, which resulted in -2260.14 eur debit.

    I thought that the conversion is settled immediately from USD to cover it. But apparently AMP's policy is:

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    My balance shows:

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    But my statement is already reflecting the "conversion" (see NLV)

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    AMP keeps saying

    Current eur/usd = 1.08660
    So if I do my math right, 2260.14 x 1.08660 = 2455.86

    12973.58-2455.86 = 10517.72 (which is about what is on the statement)

    But as of yesterday (past the 3rd week already) my pnl lower -$3.85.

    So the question is when do I know this "conversion" is completed? Like how much am I going to end up paying?
    SHould i just do it myself or just let AMP do it automatically? I assume now it will be done next month since the FDXS trade took place this month?
     
  2. hilmy83

    hilmy83

    Finally got the answer.

    Basically AMPs covers any debit balance with USD the following month. In the meantime, these guys would basically show on the statement NLV in USD as if it's covered at the spot rate every single day!, since actual debit hasn't been converted yet. So Im technically getting charged every pnl since this debit will stay on until they do their once a month conversion.
     
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    You are not "charged" anything.
     
  4. hilmy83

    hilmy83

    You should know how to read that statement. Realized PnL - Commission should equate whats shown at the NLV daily change. It's clear it's debited...

    $105.50 - 5.64 = 99.86
    NLV change shows 96.01, a difference of 3.85

    I see this on the daily. It's like NLV is converted daily until AMP actually performs the conversion next month or i do it myself for $30 + spread.

    But honestly, i'm done trading the dax..staying with just cme products
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2023
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