Defining a Strong vs Weak Trend

Discussion in 'Trading' started by metatrader54, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Nice chart, you can tell at the end of the chart the trend is weakening.
     
    #21     Jul 12, 2019
  2. I would have traded the first half and second half of the chart differently. But still nice charts.
     
    #22     Jul 12, 2019
  3. Agreed, I actually took a long at the last pullback and took profits at the peak before CPI came out.
     
    #23     Jul 12, 2019
  4. From a mathematical and signal processing perspective,
    Left has a higher signal to noise ratio...
    Right has a steeper slope...

    From a financial engineering perspective, lower variance (left) is often preferred.
    Lower reward, but lower risk. Think portfolio diversification.

    Many traders like high risk/reward/variance trades (e.g. extreme gaps).

    Depends on your definition of stronger.

    Either way, both are purely theoretical constructs.
    Not much to draw any strong conclusions.
     
    #24     Jul 12, 2019
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  5. Strong positive trend was defined as:
    1. price above daily pivot
    2. positive A/D
    3. 5 ema/above 20 ema on 15 min chart
    4. 5 ema/above 20 ema on 1 hr chart
    5. 5 ema/above 20 ema on daily chart

    but it is impossible IMO to formulate a strategy based on the above unless it is sustained and that cannot be assessed in real time.
     
    #25     Jul 12, 2019
  6. bone

    bone

    Golden nuggets:

    1. Use longer sampling timeframes when you are modeling for trend, and

    2. In a Bullish market, you want to see higher highs and higher lows. Conversely in a Bearish market, you want to see lower lows and lower highs.

    3. For maximum resolution - always check the Weekly. Sometimes I even use the Monthly. Model in multiple time frames. Always.
     
    #26     Jul 12, 2019
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  7. %%
    Exactly, since its same time frame.Stable or orderly trends like SPY almost never make what QQQ does.
    My comments do not apply to bitcon; fundamentals do matter, even on a daily chart. Stocks/ETFs never move like oil on WED. May enter/exit the weaker left trend with less slippage; not a prediction, not long TSLA or DB:D:D, :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
    #27     Jul 12, 2019
  8. %%
    Sounds like a hint for fundamentals, not near as helpful as price. Stocks/ETFs never move like oil on WED....................................................................................................:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
     
    #28     Jul 12, 2019
  9. birdman

    birdman

    I apologize for straying a bit from the original post. I'm curious to know what rule of thumb others use ... how quickly after the open (on average) they wait before determining a short term trend is established ... say 3 minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, etc? I know it varies, but i keep trying to nail down a best number :) Thanks for your comments.
     
    #29     Jan 13, 2020