"Excess Mortality Soars"... every possible explanation considered... except one... COVID VACCINES!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Sep 20, 2022.

  1. Large doctor group calls for end to all Covid vaccines based on peer-reveiwed paper.

    https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/n...reviewed-papers-suspension-covid-19-vaccines/

    Sherif Sultan Professor of vascular surgery and President of International vascular society
    “Doctor Aseem Malhotra’s literature review and analysis is a cause for global concern. We fully believe that vaccines are one of the great discoveries in medicine that has improved life expectancy dramatically, however, mRNA genetic vaccines are different, as long-term safety evaluation is lacking but mandatory to ensure public safety. These findings raise concerns regarding vaccine-induced undetected severe cardiovascular side effects and underscore the established causal relationship between vaccines and myocarditis, a frequent cause of unexpected cardiac arrest in young individuals. Surveillance of potential vaccine side-effects and Covid-19 outcomes to identify public health trends and promptly investigate potential underlying causes needs immediate attention”

    Jay Bhattacharya Professor of Medicine and epidemiology at the University of Stanford
    “Dr. Aseem Malhotra has written detailed narrative review of the literature on the uses and abuses of the mRNA Covid vaccines. Dr. Malhotra makes a good case that there is considerable heterogeneity across age groups and other comorbid conditions in the expected benefits and expected side effect profiles of the vaccine. He finds that while there may be a case for older people to take the vaccine because the benefits may outweigh expected harm that may not be the case for younger people. Dr. Malhotra’s paper calls for a pause in the use of the vaccine in younger people, such as the one recently adopted by Danish public health authorities and the Florida department of public health in the United States. He calls for investigation of side effect profiles of mRNA vaccines and for a halt to any vaccine mandate programs involving Covid vaccines. These papers should be considered carefully by all public health authorities who seek to adopt principles of evidence-based medicine in their recommendations to the public regarding the Covid mRNA vaccines”

    Dr Amir Hannan MBE, General Practitioner and Chairman of the West Pennine Local Medical Committee, Greater Manchester
    “Dr Aseem Malhotra should be congratulated for putting this altogether to help inform the public, the medical profession, the regulators, government, the pharmaceutical industry and wider society. Drug treatments and vaccinations can be an important part in helping to overcome disease and prevent illness, but we must remain vigilant against over reliance on the benefits and minimising or even suppressing the harms. Greater scrutiny of the data is needed and those overseeing medical practice to ensure the public and the profession remain safe. An urgent review is needed of the materials and information provided on the Covid-19 vaccines to help inform the public so that informed consent is gained through a shared decision-making process with education and training in light of the new evidence emerging”

    Dr Campbell Murdoch, General Practitioner and Clinical Advisor to the Royal College of General Practitioners
    “Provision of safe and effective healthcare sits at the heart of medical services. As a GP this is central to every action I take with patients. The healthcare regulator in England, the Care Quality Commission, requires this from all providers of medical care. As Dr Malhotra describes, to be able to provide safe and effective care all healthcare professionals must practice evidence-based medicine. This is a combination of using the best available scientific evidence, the patient’s preferences, and the healthcare professional’s expertise. The combination of these three factors allows the patient to make an informed choice about what is best for their health.

    In the case of the Covid-19 vaccination Dr Malhotra describes multiple systemic failures in the provision of safe and effective evidence-based medicine. Consequently, it has been impossible for patients and the public to make an informed choice about what is best for their health and life.

    High quality healthcare requires organisations and individuals to act with complete integrity. Without this the delivery of safe and effective healthcare will always fail.

    Errors in healthcare can provide an opportunity to improve. It is now time to reflect and learn from the experience of the Covid-19 vaccination. Healthcare must always help, not harm.”

    Dr Bob Gill, General Practitioner, activist and producer of documentary “The Great NHS Heist”
    “This important two-part review of the impact of the international roll-out of mRNA vaccination program highlights significant concerns about the overstated benefits of vaccination especially in low-risk populations and the under-reporting of adverse events. Public information and consent to vaccination has not been balanced, neglecting discussion of individual risk versus benefit of having the shot. The quality of evidence provided vaccine producers and lack of openness from the pharmaceutical industry risk long lasting damage to confidence in public health interventions.

    Part two of the review sets out how regulatory capture by pharmaceutical corporations and their immense financial power influences politicians and media to promote products at the expense of scientific scrutiny and unfettered access to research on which decision of immense impact are made. Bias and conflicts of interest abound in the medical-industrial complex with well documented adverse outcome for patients from overmedicalisation and prescription drugs. Coercive vaccine mandates based on biased and short trials with unpublished raw data is the culmination of the uncheck power of the pharmaceutical industry to the exclusion of effective lifestyle factor risk reduction which was ignored by media and politicians alike.

    Given the declining virulence of the infection and mounting evidence of vaccine-related harms, there can be no justification to continued mass roll-out of booster programs given the short-term risks from the vaccine likely outweigh the benefits for the majority of the population and we remain ignorant of the long-term risk to health.”

    Dr Renee Hoenderkamp, General Practitioner, writer and broadcaster
    “This is an important paper from Aseem. As a GP in a small practice, I have two young patients with post vaccine heart conditions confirmed. They were not counselled on the risk of this as part of an informed consent process. Surely any medical professional should want their patients to fully understand the risks and benefits of a medication they take, and welcome that discussion? As the evidence evolves and we see clearly that the risk from both covid 19 and the vaccine designed to protect against it differs massively by age, sex, co-morbidity, and previous infection, it becomes ever more important to give patients the information they need to make an informed decision. This important paper brings those risks and benefits into sharp focus and should allow the desperately needed discussion that has thus far been sorely missing from any examination of vaccination benefit and harms. Aseem opens up the discussion around the both the harms and the ability to have a healthy discourse and I welcome it”
     
    #51     Sep 27, 2022
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The World Council for Health org is not a large medical organization. Nor is it a mainstream medical organization. It is a recently formed anti-vax pseudo-science organization which regularly pushes complete bullshiat.

    Mysterious Medical Organizations Are Calling for an End to COVID Vaccines
    Blandly-named pseudo-medical organizations are promoting bad science, discredited drugs, and creating an industry of COVID denial.
    https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7n...ions-are-calling-for-an-end-to-covid-vaccines

    The World Council for Health (WCH) is in no way what it sounds like, which is of course exactly the point. The organization’s website is set up to look like a public health nonprofit: a clean layout, a cheery little logo—a graphic of a hand inside an apple, a heart inlay inside the hand—and a bland mission statement, which proclaims that the group is “a worldwide coalition of health-focused organizations and civil society groups that seek to broaden public health knowledge and sense-making through science and shared wisdom.” There’s also a sprinkling of stock photos, prominently featuring Black women and children.

    In reality, the WCH is an umbrella group for purveyors of COVID misinformation. Its dozens of large and small “coalition partners,” among which are groups that are regularly in the headlines and ones working behind the scenes, are based all over the world. They share one thing: a devotion to casting doubt on COVID vaccines and promoting discredited treatments for the disease. In the past few months, the WCH has declared that COVID vaccines are “dangerous and ineffective,” released a nonsense guide to “spike protein detox” after vaccination (premised on the completely false idea that the vaccine somehow looses dangerous spike proteins in the body), misleadingly claimed that COVID vaccination is leading to increased heart issues in both adults and children, and called on its followers to be “the hands and feet of this global coalition” and deliver a petition against the vaccines to their local elected officials.

    The WCH isn’t alone. Since the beginning of the pandemic, a growing number of organizations, new and old, have devoted themselves to creating the perception that there are legitimate medical bodies who question the basic science of mask-wearing, social distancing, and vaccination.

    Some are older fringe medical groups that have thrown themselves into a new fight: The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, for instance, a group Senator Rand Paul belongs to, is a libertarian-leaning organization which has opposed mandatory vaccinations for children for years and made the false claim that abortions are linked to breast cancer. During the pandemic, the AAPS has opposed vaccine mandates and passports and suggested in a press release that COVID vaccines were leading to what they called an “unprecedented number of lethal and disabling complications reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS).” (Anyone can report an unverified claim to VAERS, and misusing and misinterpreting VAERS data has become a cornerstone of the anti-vaccine movement.)

    Then there are newer, headline-attracting groups like America’s Frontline Doctors, which has promoted discredited COVID treatments like hydroxychloroquine and which is now, as the Intercept recently reported, teaming up with conservative sting group Project Veritas to spread COVID misinformation and harass medical regulators on-camera. In December, the group followed and confronted Kristina Lawson, the president of California’s medical board, which she called “a terrifying experience.” The Vaccine Safety Research Foundation, which was founded by Steve Kirsch—a Silicon Valley entrepreneur who spoke at January’s anti-vaccine rally in Washington, D.C.—has become, as the MIT Technology Review put it in October, a “misinformation superspreader.” (The organization’s name is extremely similar to that of the Foundation for Vaccine Research, which was founded in 2011 by actual scientists to advocate for more research and development for vaccines, especially for diseases like HIV, tuberculosis, and malaria that were, and are, ravaging developing countries.)

    There’s also the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance, the fringe group whose main goal is the promotion of ivermectin, a drug which a recent randomized clinical trial found had no effectiveness as a COVID treatment. . The FLCCC is also a member of the World Council for Health; so is the BIRD Group, its British counterpart. The BIRD Group’s most prominent member is Dr. Tess Lawrie, who also sits on the WCH’s steering committee, alongside people like Mark Trozzi, an Ontario doctor who was barred in October from issuing medical exemptions for COVID vaccines, masks and tests.

    Indeed, many of the WCH “coalition partners” promote ivermectin; the organization also recently released a press release claiming that a Japanese study had proven the drug is effective against the Omicron variant. (In fact, the study was not conducted on human beings, and an incorrect Reuters story is the main thing fueling this particular claim.) There’s a reason why ivermectin features so prominently: The fine print on the WCH’s website reveals that it is an “initiative managed through EbMCsquared,” yet another ivermectin-promoting organization that Lawrie is affiliated with.

    The effect here is a bewildering nesting doll of jargon and affiliations, all designed to add up to look like something approaching medical consensus against vaccination and in favor of discredited treatments like ivermectin. Unlike most actual medical organizations, however, all of these groups take donations, often for very unclear ends; the WCH, for instance, which does not appear to be a 501c3 nonprofit, says donations will be used “as we chart a better way forward for world health.” The only video the WCH has uploaded to YouTube is similarly vague; against images of fluffy cumulus clouds, a series of worried-sounding sentences float by: “I need to talk about COVID-19,” one reads. “I need to know who is making the decisions for my health.” The anxious declaratives resolve into what’s meant to be a calming promise: “There’s a better way,” followed by the organization’s logo.

    (Much more at above url)
     
    #52     Sep 27, 2022
  3. biden nails it! Again! No pharma shilling here.

     
    #53     Sep 27, 2022
  4. Last time we had a major storm that was going to hit near my house last August in 2021 I rushed to get vaccinated and the tree that was knocked over missed my house completely.
     
    #54     Sep 28, 2022
  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    It's a well-known statistical fact in medical care that disease outbreaks occur in areas hit by natural disasters and war because more people than normal are in close quarters with each other and are not able to properly sanitize.

    Therefore, staying up to date on vaccines makes it less likely that you will be sick with COVID-19 while sheltering or evacuating from a hurricane, and less likely to need medical services while hospitals are being overwhelmed by the natural disaster.

    In fact, the great WWI helped caused the Influenza Pandemic and there was no vaccine...its the reason why millions of people died in that Pandemic. Heck, even back then, the anti-vaccine organizations in the early 1900s were attacking the governments of many countries about mandates...many thought the government was hiding vaccines.

    wrbtrader
     
    #55     Sep 28, 2022
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  6. This is not WW1. Sorry but the situation in 1914 is not what is going on here. If a hurricane is heading to Florida, there is no need to run and get vaccinated versus making sure you got food, water, insurance paperwork, full tank of gas, generator or anything else more important. The people in Florida are not going to all be in closer quarters than they already are.

    It just comes across as stupid that with a hurricane coming Biden decides to make a COVID vax plea "right now".

    Hospitalization rates are back down low because the current COVID strains have weakened due to vaccines, people who caught it, and people distancing who test positive, etc...

    Hospitals and clinics are gearing up for the hurricane and staffing issues they will have due to shelter in place and evacuation orders... the last thing they need is lines of people trying to get a COVID vax 2 days before a hurricane makes landfall.
     
    #56     Sep 28, 2022
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Florida currently leads the nation in per-capita and raw Covid deaths and hospitalizations for three months now. No other state even comes close.

    Don't know about Florida under DeSantis but other states including N.C. still have a requirement for adults to be Covid vaccinated to stay in any public emergency shelter.
     
    #57     Sep 28, 2022
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  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    My first sentence was the following...

    It's a well-known statistical fact in medical care that disease outbreaks occur in areas hit by natural disasters and war.

    I should have bolded fonts and used the word "or" instead of "and" so that it would have been written as...

    It's a well-known statistical fact in medical care that disease outbreaks occur in areas hit by natural disasters or war.

    Simply, Florida is about to be hit by a "natural disaster" that involves shelters and hospitals with an unusual number of people being put together without knowing their vaccination status and not knowing if any of them are currently infected with Covid or infected with any other diseases.

    Growing up, I lived through two natural disasters. There was a tetanus outbreak and another had an outbreak of pneumonia that resulted in people dying from the disease after they had survived the initial natural disaster.

    I do remember nurses asking my mom if her children (my siblings and me) were vaccinated and against what diseases during the eastern Kentucky flood of 1977...a lot of sewage was in the water up to our shoulders.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #58     Sep 28, 2022
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    In the days during smallpox and polio years...many southern states actually had a rule that they segregated public emergency shelters based upon vaccination status in natural disaster regions although it didn't work too well.

    They do the same in Wars...soldiers with wounds and injuries in one hospital tent and soldiers with infections or diseases in a different hospital tent.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #59     Sep 28, 2022

  10. Its 2022..respectfully this is different... FL is not segregating people in public for many months now.

    You think 2 days before the hurricane hits Biden should be telling people to go get vaccinated?

    That is the point, not polio or WW2 :)
     
    #60     Sep 28, 2022