Fighting Back Against Fake News

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tom B, Dec 11, 2016.

  1. fhl

    fhl

  2. java

    java

    Even her post election speech on fake news was so disgusting to listen to. It was obvious someone wrote it for her and told her to deliver it like she was human, which of course is laughably impossible.
     
    #12     Dec 12, 2016
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  3. JamesL

    JamesL

    Fake News.

    Because "alt-right" wasn't working.
     
    #13     Dec 12, 2016
  4. Tom B

    Tom B

    Liberals’ fake-news panic proves they can’t handle the truth
    By Michael Goodwin

    December 11, 2016 | 2:22am | Updated

    Hillary Clinton rails against an “epidemic” of fake news, Lyin’ Brian Williams hunts for untruths, and wacky Dan Rather is alarmed at pretty much everything. Not to be outdone, the New York Times spies a nation soul-searching for truth in a sea of lies.

    Allow me to help our mendacious doomsayers, whose frightfulness conjures images of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Step One is to get their heads out of their own posteriors.

    Step Two is to locate the source of their fear and loathing, and they don’t need a shrink for that: It’s Donald Trump’s resounding victory. Because they can’t handle the truth, they are turning their tantrums into a witch hunt and wild conspiracy theories. The sudden fascination with fake news and Russian hacking reveals only their rage against reality.

    Yes, it’s true some websites carry stories cut from whole cloth. There are also well-regarded newspapers that treat their own biases as holy writ.

    Recall that the Times and its co-conspirators created a fictional Trump held aloft by goose-stepping brownshirts and toothless bigots rising from the swamps. They aimed to scare the country into supporting Clinton by turning their front pages into editorial pages, where “straight news” became an oxymoron.

    With their distortion magnified by copycat broadcasters and left-wing cable bile, it’s no wonder the scaremongers never imagined a Trump victory. No dissenting voices were permitted to interrupt their groupthink, and none did.

    Yet even now, instead of trying to understand where they went wrong, they pound the table and declare that everybody else is wrongheaded. To the media clergy, the Earth is still flat.

    One result is the hysteria sweeping college campuses, leftist basements and Hollywood salons. Having drunk the national media Kool-Aid, they are bewildered that the sun still rises. How could life possibly go on with Trump in the Oval Office?

    Another result is the defeated left’s search for “solutions” to the proliferation of ideas beyond their control. Their proposals run the gamut from foolish to dangerous as they aim to restrict free speech by any who dare challenge their monopoly on truth.

    And so the Trump deniers enlist social-media gatekeepers to block everything from fake news to “hate” speech, with definitions set by the like-minded. How comforting.

    Here’s one example of the tangle they face: Is burning the American flag patriotic or a form of hate speech? Who’s to make the final decision, the people who burn the flag or the people who fought to defend it?

    Or consider that President Obama claims the problem with the media is “segmentation,” meaning people gravitate to what they like, as if that’s a bad thing. In the next breath, he singles out Rolling Stone magazine for doing “great work.”

    That’s odd, given that the magazine just lost a libel suit over a false campus rape story it retracted. Ah, but here’s Obama’s truth: Rolling Stone featured him on the cover 10 times, so of course it’s doing great work. It agrees with him!

    Most political truths are like that, in the eye of the beholder. That’s why the Founders created a system based on the concept of the more voices, the merrier.

    The First Amendment was designed to produce a cacophony of competing views instead of establishing a single one. And no single authority would decide what speech is true and what speech is false.

    Justice Louis Brandeis, who revered the American ideal, wrote that when confronting falsehoods and fallacies, “the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.”

    On another case, Brandeis wrote, “In frank expression of conflicting opinion lies the greatest promise of wisdom in governmental action; and in suppression lies ordinarily the greatest peril.”

    The suppressors are out in force now, thrashing about in their fever and determined to silence speech that doesn’t conform to theirs. The only sensible response is to tell them to keep their hands off the First Amendment. It’s perfectly fine the way it is.

    http://nypost.com/2016/12/11/liberals-fake-news-panic-show-they-cant-handle-the-truth/
     
    #14     Dec 12, 2016
  5. So now Trump is some kind of Russian Manchurian candidate? Yes, the ironey is overflowing that the Russian government would be calling us out on our own corrupt election process, but as I've said many times, truth is truth regardless of who speaks it. A corrupt DNC working in collusion with a bought and paid for media was exposed. That's just a fact. Did Trump exploit that? Hell yeah, he'd have been a fool not too. That does not change the fact which were uncovered. No doubt Putin has a big smirk on his face rubbing our noses in our own BULLSHIT and as stated, it's almost as hypocritical as the Clintons claiming the moral high ground on the sexual exploitation of women, but Comrade Putin probably just got tired of listening to our lectures about how pure we are when it's so painfully obvious how corrupt our political process is.
     
    #15     Dec 12, 2016
  6. Tom B

    Tom B

    You can't make this shit up.

    New York Times Hires Reporter Who Sent Stories To Clinton Staffers For Approval


    Posted By Alex Pfeiffer On 11:15 AM 12/12/2016 In | No Comments

    Politico’s Glenn Thrush, who was exposed in WikiLeaks emails sending stories to Hillary Clinton staffers before publication, will be joining the New York Times to cover the White House, The Huffington Post reported Monday.

    “We’re thrilled that Glenn Thrush is joining The Times,” Elisabeth Bumiller, The New York Times’ Washington bureau chief, told The Huffington Post. “He’s a premier political journalist, a master of breaking news and long-form story telling and a stellar addition to our White House team.”

    While Bumiller described Thrush as a “premier political journalist,” in one email to Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta, Thrush chose to describe himself as a “hack.”

    “No worries Because I have become a hack I will send u the whole section that pertains to u,” Thrush wrote to Podesta in an April 2015 email. “Please don’t share or tell anyone I did this Tell me if I fucked up anything.” (RELATED: NYT’s John Harwood Gloats About Provoking Trump At Debate)


    Thrush’s email included five paragraphs of a story pertaining to Podesta, and Podesta replied to Thrush telling him there were “no problems” with the writing. Those paragraphs appeared in a May story “Hillary’s big-money dilemma.”

    [dcquiz] Clinton’s campaign Jennifer Palmieri also got to look over Thrush’s writing. In another April 2015 email, Thrush wrote, “pls read asap — the [Jennifer Palmieri] bits — don’t share.” This email included eight paragraphs of uncritical writing on Palmieri.

    Palmieri forwarded Thrush’s email to Podesta and campaign manager Robby Mook among other staffers, and said, “He did me courtesy of sending what he is going to say about me. Seems fine.”

    The portions Thrush emailed Palmieri ended up mostly unchanged in the column “Quiet, please. Hillary’s running.” That story includes the line, “Palmieri (who laughed off a request to participate in this story) enjoys a good relationship with reporters.”


    The WikiLeaks release of Podesta’s emails also revealed a political bias from Thrush. In an August 2015 email chain, the Politico reporter asked Podesta if he had seen a report that Clinton had secured the support of more than 400 superdelegates and if the report is true. Podesta responded “yes,” and Thrush said, “I’m glad!”

    Leaked emails, though, aren’t necessary to see what Thrush really thinks about politics. On Twitter, the new White House reporter for The New York Times seemed to suggest President-elect Donald Trump is a racist. Thrush wrote “exactly” when retweeting someone who wrote, “so black people are to blame because they oppose a racist? It’s the voters fault and not the candidate’s? Ok.”

    During Trump’s speech accepting the Republican nomination, Thrush wrote, “Your assessment of the quality of Trump’s speech is entirely dependent on how low you set the bar.”

    Then in September, he said, “Dems having a hard time accepting: a clear majority of white Americans are aware of Trump’s racist/xenophobic comments and back him anyway.” Outside of disdain for Trump on Twitter, there is plenty of love between Thrush and the Clinton campaign.

    Thrush wished a happy birthday Monday to former Clinton deputy press secretary Jesse Ferguson and Clinton’s former spokesman Brian Fallon gave his endorsement after the news of Thrush’s hire. “If journalism is last line of defense in fight to hold Trump accountable, I’ll take my chances [with] combo of [Maggie Haberman] & [Glenn Thrush] at NYT,” Fallon wrote.

    Following Trump election, the Times’ public editor wrote that the paper will be making a conscious effort to not be “an echo chamber of liberal intellectualism.”



    Article printed from The Daily Caller: http://dailycaller.com

    URL to article: http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/12/n...ent-stories-to-clinton-staffers-for-approval/

    Click here to print.
     
    #16     Dec 12, 2016
  7. Despicable. But what more can we expect?
     
    #17     Dec 12, 2016
  8. But you don't seem to be all too troubled by the foreign hacking, and the biased interference of the election process quite possibly orchestrated by the former head of the former KGB. Ends justifying the means and all that?

    As for the "bought and paid for" media, you mean something like this?

    http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/14/new-york-times-warns-clinton-campaign/

    Meanwhile, what about the cast at Fox Fluffers & Friends, the likes of Breitbart, and Alex Jones of InFauxWars? Some of these guys make shit up out of whole cloth as they go along. You okay with that?
     
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    #18     Dec 12, 2016
  9. JamesL

    JamesL

    BSNBC - THE HOME OF FAKE NEWS STORIES

    Fake News: MSNBC Host Claims Fox News Had Christmas Party at Trump’s D.C. Hotel

    Amidst the media’s obsession with supposedly stopping fake news, MSNBC Live aired a fake news story of their own on Friday morning as the network informed viewers that “Fox News had their Christmas party” at President-elect Donald Trump’s Washington, D.C. hotel.

    “I mean, think about the hotel in Washington right now. The RNC is having their Christmas party there. Fox News had their Christmas party there. That doesn't feel a little hanky,” host Stephanie Ruhle claimed just after 9:30 a.m. Eastern time while speaking to former Martin O’Malley aide Lis Smith and GOP strategist Brad Todd.

    Roughly five hours later, Ruhle guest-hosted on MSNBC for Thomas Roberts and she used the opportunity to apologize in which she explained that she’s “since learned that neither Fox network nor an affiliate held any party at Trump’s Washington hotel”:

    Earlier today in a segment — oh, you know, what? This is some serious business that I need to share. I need to apologize to the audience. Earlier today in a segment, I stated that the Fox network held their holiday party at Trump’s D.C. hotel. I was wrong. We’ve since learned that neither Fox network nor an affiliate held any party at Trump’s Washington hotel. I stand corrected. I apologize for the error. I am truly, truly sorry. The mistake entirely my fault. And of course, I wish all my friends over at Fox a very happy holiday no matter where you have your party.

    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...claims-fox-news-had-christmas-party-trumps-dc


    I guess it's only classified as "fake news" if it has a conservative viewpoint.
     
    #19     Dec 12, 2016
  10. java

    java

    It's not fake if it is believable. That's why Hillary's child sex ring is not fake news.
     
    #20     Dec 12, 2016