Google AI and technology

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by VicBee, Nov 29, 2023.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

    https://themessenger.com/tech/googles-ai-discoveries-revolutionize-technology

    Google’s AI Just Made 800 Years Worth of Discoveries. What It Found Could Revolutionize Technology
    It could help bring technologies like superconductors closer to reality
    Published 11/30/23 03:18 PM ET|
    Abubakar Idris

    Google DeepMind’s artificial intelligence could be on the cusp of helping scientists make multiple technological breakthroughs thanks to a trove of predictions for millions of entirely new materials that could help build next-gen AI computing chips, batteries, renewable energy and more.

    The breakthrough was detailed in the scientific journal Nature on Wednesday. In a blog post, Google explained how its AI, Graph Network for Materials Exploration (GNoME), has essentially completed 800 years worth of research and discovery, enabling labs to start testing the predicted materials as soon as possible.
    Ultimately, the AI could “dramatically increase the speed and efficiency of discovery by predicting the stability of new materials,” Google said.

    DeepMind said almost 400,000 of the AI-generated material designs can be engineered in a lab.

    DeepMind will share the findings with the scientific community to help speed up new discoveries and engineering, including, Google hints, of superconductors — a kind of holy grail for technologists that would enable electronics to run with perfect efficiency.
     
  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    Good if the AI focuses on new materials.

    What is worrying is that it might focus on FOOD!
    Since 1900, food scientists have created tons of toxic Frankenstein food like
    trans fat / additives / chemicals / preservatives.
    They have even created GMOs.

    AI! Don't touch the food!
    Anyway, the next generation of toxic Frankenstein coming up.
    What's next?
    Plastic meat?
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2023
  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    I don't agree with that assessment and this is why.

    Western nations have been consuming excessive amounts of meats for well over 80 years. We all know or at least can read about the effect of cows on the planet, from deforestation to high water use for feed and fart pollution. This doesn't even consider the industrial process and moral dilemma by which we've simply objectified animals.

    Now consider for a moment how much meat consumption can come from China and other high population countries that are adopting western standards. Meat alternative are meant to address that market, the fast food burgers, chicken filet'o'fish products that some eat multiple times a week. If we continue to service the insatiable appetite for meats the way we have supported western consumers, we are in for a while lot of troubles ahead.
     
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  4. RantaMin

    RantaMin

    We have a great opportunity to significantly accelerate and enhance our research
     
  5. I watched a documentary recently('Rachels Farm'.2023,if anyone interested)on regenerative and holistic farming.

    Was very interesting.Doesnt address the moral dilemma you mentioned or deforestation but it shows that farming can be a positive for the ecosystem.

    I have trouble putting together a trade idea for this but I foresee a real move towards local,regen certified meats in the future.Soaring prices,all passed on to the consumer,by the conglomerates,can be mitigated by cancelling the 'supply from afar' costs.Local markets should easily be able to compete.Probably requires some sort of 'movement' as a catalyst.

    Off topic,in a country renowned for its drinking culture,I am noticing a big shift away from alcohol consumption.The first,I think,in my lifetime.

    Throw in Ozempic and you have a rapidly changing world,investment wise in particular.

    Apologies in advance for rambling post.:D
     
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  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    This is already the case in many parts of the wealthy world with rich farming histories, smaller producers farming with deliberate efforts towards optimum quality. But quality is expensive, at least twice as much as what is sold as quality meat in typical supermarkets.

    The industrialization of farming brought prices down to where the masses finally could eat meats regularly. But over the last 70 years, hyper industrialization furthered lower prices at the expense of quality. What kind of meat goes in a .99¢ burger?! As fast food expanded world wide and production methods grew more sophisticated, it turns out we have been fed appalling quality things conveniently called meat, that barely resemble what meat was a century ago.

    The advent of lab grown meats could have ushered a real transformation, where existing junk meat could at least be created from verified quality and health standards and bring a massive reduction in industrial meats, from feed to plate.

    Unfortunately, too many interests killed the efforts from many angles, some unexpected. If I take my wife as a typical high quality buyer and consumer of meats, she quickly rejected lab grown meats even though she wasn't the targeted consumer. I tried explaining the need to reduce the number of cows and sheep and chickens in the world that are polluting our air, water and land and replace fast foods with lab grown alternatives that was more humane and better quality... Nope, nothing could convince her that meat should be lab grown, too dark side futuristic. I believe many people who don't eat at fast food restaurants or wouldn't buy and consume lab grown meats or meats at all became vocal about their fears and ultimately helped kill the nascent industry that needed their support to push for the transition.

    A friend of mine had senior roles in manufacturing at Impossible Foods, then at Just, the lab grown egg and chicken company. I had the opportunity to test the burger and egg and chicken before they came to market and found them perfectly acceptable alternatives to existing meats found in typical fast food burger or chicken outlets. The lab grown meats industry never had greater ambitions than replace those meats and could have absorbed the development costs that forced their higher retail prices, if only they had gotten the support I think they deserved.
     
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  7. Sprout

    Sprout

  8. RantaMin

    RantaMin

  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Jobs vs. Machines: The Rise of Artificial Intelligence
     
  10. RantaMin

    RantaMin

    How will AI change the world?

     
    #10     Feb 19, 2024