Had Hillary won the Electoral College and not the "popular vote" ...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kandlekid, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. I would be in favor of Popular vote instead of Electoral college, with two caveats-

    1- National voter ID cards
    2- Mandatory multi-year prison sentence for anyone voting or aiding someone to vote who does not have a valid voter ID card.
     
    #71     Aug 10, 2017
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I don't think anyone is triggered, just stunned at the endless abyss of whining.
     
    #72     Aug 10, 2017
  3. There really oughta be some sort of testing system to dilute the votes of the low information crowd.
     
    #73     Aug 10, 2017
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Or at least dilute the votes of those who don't pay any taxes and have no skin in the game.
     
    #74     Aug 10, 2017
  5. jem

    jem

    and to avoid allowing poilticians to rig the vote...
    I think naturalized citiizens naturalized after today should not be allowed to vote until they have not received any govt assistance and paid income taxes for 5 to 10 years.

     
    #75     Aug 10, 2017
  6. Obviously either the DNC or the soros-funded group that employs him as a paid poster.

    Seriously, there trolls are getting easier and easier to spot. Why do you guys waste your time with them? Aren't Nitro's ,oops I mean "heisenbern's" ,endless threads entertainment enough?
     
    #76     Aug 10, 2017
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    When we talk about the 10 largest cities in the U.S. - we are actually talking about the 10 largest Metropolitan Areas as defined by the Census Bureau. These Metro areas represent a population of over 80 million people out of 326 million in the U.S. -- effectively if the U.S. used the popular vote for the presidency, candidates would only have to campaign in these metro areas plus a couple others (e.g. San Francisco) to lock in thresholds for victory. In fact politicians could entirely ignore 34 states in their campaigns and still easily reach a 50% threshold.

    Let's list them out:

    1) New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA – 19,567,410
    2) Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA – 12,828,837
    3) Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI (9,461,105)
    4) Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX (6,426,214)
    5) Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX (5,920,416)
    6) Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD (5,965,343)
    7) Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV (5,636,232)
    8) Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach, FL (5,564,635)
    9) Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA (5,286,728)
    10) Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH (4,552,402)
     
    #77     Aug 10, 2017
  8. jem

    jem

    and the way we vet voters out here in California...

    The San Diego - Mexico metro area can provide about 5 million American and tens of million illegal voters.

     
    #78     Aug 10, 2017
  9. ottootto

    ottootto

    Voters in the biggest cities in the US are almost exactly balanced out by rural areas in terms of population and partisan composition.

    16% of the U.S. population lives outside the nation's Metropolitan Statistical Areas. Rural America has voted 60% Republican. None of the 10 most rural states matter now.

    16% of the U.S. population lives in the top 100 cities. They voted 63% Democratic in 2004.

    The population of the top 50 cities (going as far down as Arlington, TX) is only 15% of the population of the United States.

    The rest of the U.S., in suburbs, divide almost exactly equally between Republicans and Democrats.

    Because of state-by-state winner-take-all laws, not mentioned, much less endorsed, in the Constitution. . .

    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in 2015 was correct when he said
    "The nation as a whole is not going to elect the next president,"
    “The presidential election will not be decided by all states, but rather just 12 of them.

    Candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or care about the voter concerns in the dozens of states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind.

    With the end of the primaries, without the National Popular Vote bill in effect, the political relevance of 70% of all Americans was finished for the presidential election.

    In the 2016 general election campaign

    Over half (57%) of the campaign events were held in just 4 states (Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Ohio).

    Virtually all (94%) of the campaign events were in just 12 states (containing only 30% of the country's population).
     
    #79     Aug 10, 2017
  10. ottootto

    ottootto

    I am not paid by the DNC or a Soros-funded group. This is my unpaid effort to educate.

    I believe you meant "their" trolls.
     
    #80     Aug 10, 2017