How do you handle price being halfway between your buy signal and stop loss.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by HolyGrailSeeker, Sep 12, 2024.

  1. "Buying the dip", famous last words...
     
    #11     Sep 12, 2024
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  2. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    yea works great till it doesn't lol

    so many things people think will work in fact don't that's why my testing is my boss. it tells me what is real and what's just guessing.

    reminds me of take a losing system and turn it upside down lol
     
    #12     Sep 12, 2024
  3. schizo

    schizo

    If your ENTRY rule states that you can only enter a trade when it's at x, and not somewhere between x and y, that's what you need to do. Forget 1:1 RR crap and stick to the rule. Otherwise, you'll always remain a noob.
     
    #13     Sep 12, 2024
  4. Peter8519

    Peter8519

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    #14     Sep 13, 2024
  5. taowave

    taowave

    I'm guessing you are trading off daily bars,and you get a buy signal off the closing price.Next day,stock opens down x percent,halfway between original "signal price" and stop.

    If you are thorough in your research and have run simulations,I'm fairly confident you had several trades similar to the scenario you mentioned.
    In that case,trust your system and trade accordingly with the same risk reward parameters off the "new" (lower)purchase price..

    You could also run simulations with an entry rule that restricts entry price vs buy signal price.
     
    #15     Sep 13, 2024
  6. Wide Tailz

    Wide Tailz

    Message received. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on when it comes to these types of thingz
     
    #16     Sep 14, 2024
  7. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    promise i was not talking about you - lol
     
    #17     Sep 14, 2024
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  8. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Says you.

    First of all the amount of traders around here who think they have created an edge simply by how they manage trades is hilarious.

    IMO using targets based on the % of profits you are getting or risk ratios is counter-productive AND counter-intuitive. Stocks have expected moves, so if you don't take advantage of that and try to maximize profits then you have zero edge. YOU might as well take profits as soon as you hit 50% because if you don't then 50% of the time, price will drop again and stop you out, and 50% it will move to your 100% profit target. With any luck, over time you might break even.

    I use price levels that I expect to take profits at, and I don't care how price gets there or how long it takes. It requires no management, and yields better results.
     
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    #18     Sep 15, 2024
  9. Wide Tailz

    Wide Tailz

    I should clarify. Swing trading and putting on a position over several candles instead of one price plop mitigates the risk of a full stop hit with all the slippage. Target is the same (unlimited, since the strat is basically trend following stocks).

    Imagine you're running a few billions and want 20% of your portfolio in some stock. Do you just go and put a limit order on support? Or do you test the market for a while to make sure you're not jumping into a trap?

    Perish the thought you might just sell what you want to buy, to see if anyone else buys it first.

    I traded penny stox in preparation for slinging Gulfstreams some day. Thin markets are like thin ice!
     
    #19     Sep 15, 2024
  10. If you are running a few billions portfolio you have market makers clearing the market for you. You don't have to worry about testing anything, they will do it for you.
     
    #20     Sep 15, 2024
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