Trading profits are 2nd to dick size when it comes to most-lied-about topics. So, you MIGHT know ONE person who has consistently made decent returns with canned indicators. Further, I'm pretty sure you don't know anybody who makes those returns with, say, half a billion dollars.
1. "Profits" by themselves mean little without stating risk and volatility. A 15% figure a year with no leverage and very little volatility can easily be transformed into 20, 25 or 30% with the right leverage if - and only if - the volatility and risk are very low under all conditions. 2. Let me take a quick guess here. The people you know make 200% on figures < 1m. It's a lot harder (next to impossible without risking to blow up overnight) to make 200% if you manage $5 bln in funds like the funds you're comparing the performance to.
True, they are small personal traders. But then so am I. We dont need to manage $5Bn to have a wealthy life.
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