Human Equity Analysts challenged by Quants

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by makloda, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Trading profits are 2nd to dick size when it comes to most-lied-about topics.

    So, you MIGHT know ONE person who has consistently made decent returns with canned indicators.

    Further, I'm pretty sure you don't know anybody who makes those returns with, say, half a billion dollars.


     
    #31     Jun 5, 2007
  2. 1. "Profits" by themselves mean little without stating risk and volatility. A 15% figure a year with no leverage and very little volatility can easily be transformed into 20, 25 or 30% with the right leverage if - and only if - the volatility and risk are very low under all conditions.

    2. Let me take a quick guess here. The people you know make 200% on figures < 1m. It's a lot harder (next to impossible without risking to blow up overnight) to make 200% if you manage $5 bln in funds like the funds you're comparing the performance to.
     
    #32     Jun 5, 2007
  3. Guess no one told John Arnold...

    :D

     
    #33     Jun 5, 2007
  4. True, they are small personal traders. But then so am I. We dont need to manage $5Bn to have a wealthy life.
     
    #34     Jun 6, 2007
  5. nitro

    nitro

    Is 9" big? Just wondering where I stand in the distribution.

    nitro
     
    #35     Jun 6, 2007
  6. Well, then nitro, here are some incubators :

    Sponsor Contact Funds

    Asset Alliance Bruce Lipnick 11
    New York 212-207-4748

    BRI Partners info@BriPartners.com 10
    Chicago

    Capital Z Management Elizabeth Danes 19
    New York 212-965-2374

    Decision Capital Management Paul DiFrancesco 6
    La Jolla, Calif. 858-729-0222

    Fairfield Greenwich Jennifer Keeney 17
    New York 212-319-6060

    Focus Investment Mazen Jabban 20+
    New York 212-798-6177

    Fortune Group Simon Hopkins 15
    London 44-207-355-2000

    FrontPoint Partners Gil Caffray 17
    Greenwich, Conn. 203-622-5300

    Harcourt Marcel Herbst 35
    Zurich 41-13-651-0000

    Hardt Group Jeff Landle 7
    New York 212- 523-0207

    Jefferies Group Tom Witz 7
    New York 212-284-2300

    J.P. Morgan Incubator Strategies Simon Lack 8
    New York 212-899-2450

    Larch Lane Advisors Todd Williams 14
    Purchase, N.Y. 914-798-7600

    Liberty Ermitage Jonathan Wauton 7
    Isle of Jersey 44-153-461-5500

    Man Group: Man Global Strategies Nick Cavalla 40
    London 44-207-144-2086

    Man Group (RMF): Hedge Fund Ventures Hans Hurschler 12
    London 41-55-417-7552

    MD Sass-Macquarie Financial Strategies Steve Schenfeld 5
    New York 212-843-8943

    Protege Partners Jeffrey Tarrant 18
    New York 212-784-6300

    Weston Capital Management Chris Kelley 8
    Westport, Conn. 203-227-5533

    Have fun !! :p :cool: :p
     
    #36     Jun 7, 2007
  7. nitro

    nitro

    Thanks ASusilovic for that list! That should be useful to many that come to ET.

    nitro
     
    #37     Jun 7, 2007