"If you think you actually own the crypto you buy on Coinbase, you are absolutely wrong." ...?

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by easymon1, Apr 20, 2021.

  1. easymon1

    easymon1

    actually own the crypto you buy on Coinbase
    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/bitcoin-crashes-again-who-cares/

    Bitcoin Crashes Again, Who Cares? April 19, 2021 by IWB By Chris Black
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    Many millennials and gen-z’ers are so completely brainwashed and/or ignorant on basic economic issues, that they believe bitcoin to be a store of value, a commodity like silver, gold, diamonds, or whatever, instead of a Ponzi/pump-and-dump scheme with zero intrinsic value.

    But that doesn’t matter.

    As long as people believe in fairytales and there is money to be made, nobody really cares, and that’s fine with me.

    The thing is, bitcoin just dropped 15% a on Saturday evening, and throughout the night, just a few days after hitting new all-time highs following the Coinbase IPO, reaching $51,707.51 in Asia and $53,400 as of 8:0 a.m. in New York on Sunday. Ethereum suffered the same faith, dropping 18%.

    This wasn’t a herd move, it was a whale move. Some smart dudes cashed out. Still got to wait a bit for the herd to stampede, but it’s coming.

    By the way, Coinbase is a complete and total criminal enterprise, but so is all of Wall Street. If you think you actually own the crypto you buy on Coinbase, you are absolutely wrong.

    You own an IOU. They need to go public to get the funds to make the institutional holders whole, when they cash out. Everyone else will hold an empty bag.

    Anyway, this means absolutely nothing in the big scheme of things. If Elon Musk goes on Twitter tomorrow and praises bitcoin, dogecoin or whatever stupid thing, we will obviously see a rally, to the moon and back, you know the drill.

    What is going on in the investing world is the same thing that happened to fashion and product development. The millennials and gen-z’ers are so schizophrenic, that you can’t plan ahead for anything. They move from trend to trend so fast, that things pop and drop before you can react.

    They don’t know anything, or care about anything other than following a crowd.

    Let this sink in: Dogecoin was up over 300 percent in the past 7 days and has a market cap of $40 BILLION. It’s laughable.

    Check out what people have invested 40 BILLION in: Dogecoin.

    I know a lot of people that have been absolutely burned, trying to make money off millennials. The day after they see an idiot rapper or moron YouTuber wear something, they all want it. For one week the product gets hot and every piece in inventory gets sold. The stores think they have a hot seller, and place huge orders. The problem is production takes time. By the time the inventory shows up, the trend is over and they can’t give it away.

    If you are trying to figure out why a stock gets hot, there is no reason other than some idiot decided it should be a hot stock. There will never be a business rationale behind it.

    Speaking of the new gold, aka bitcoin, the ledger is currently 340 GB in size, without being used for anything close to 1% of the average daily transactions of just VISA.
    READ China’s Yuan Faces New Wave of Selling Pressure... Calls Bitcoin an “Investment Alternative” After Cracking Down on It in 2017

    If Bitcoin were used for 10% of daily global transactions, the ledger would grow by terabytes every day.

    There is nothing hardware can do to solve that.

    After ten years, everyone was using the internet and it was inseparable from society. In fact, it reached that point in less than five years.

    Bitcoin has been around for twelve years, and still has no utility for 99.9% of people on the planet.

    Here’s a cool story to tell your friends:

    What is inflation? Popularly said, you have too much money on the market courtesy of the Federal Reserve and fractional banking. Inflation normally leads to a general rise in prices (which happened to a degree but no one seems to notice or care).

    Currently, about 90% of the issuance of money by central banks has gone to the stock market, meaning the money is parked in the stock market and stuff like that.

    Can you do it another way?

    Think carefully about the following scheme: you invent an absolutely imaginary asset, which you own and whose price increases aberrantly. The growth is given both by suckers trying to get rich quick without effort, but also due to the powerful financial propaganda apparatus that you also own.

    Everything develops on a “stable” basis, and then the madness begins, until even the hairdressers talk about the new El Dorado.

    Huge amounts of money go into the asset that you sell at a slow pace, thus creating a sense of scarcity, and, at the right time, you collapse everything via panic selling, legislation or whatever method.

    That money is now “lost” and you destroy it. Thus, with a lot of money coming out of the system “naturally”, the prices remain the same, and the “fiat” money again is in demand because it is scarce (deflation).

    You know, usually speaking episodes of hyperinflation are solved by so-called monetary stabilization. The last (masked) monetary stabilization you (probably) witnessed was the launch of the Euro.

    If you study the phenomenon, you will notice how – in the case of monetary stabilization – those who pay the price are the peasants. Do you want proof? All the countries that switched to Euro saw the main effect of doubling prices for everything.

    So who suffered if not the peasants? Guess who will suffer now.
     
  2. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    Also coinbase requires a photo ID, like drivers license or passport, to withdraw bitcoin.

    So, they also have information and a profile of their users which can be sold.
     
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  3. zenlot

    zenlot

    Oh come on? You provide your ID in pretty much any financial services organization. That's called KYC. Sold? Ha, wake up mate, instead of talking nonsense try to stick on facts.
     
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  4. maxinger

    maxinger

    don't need to bother whether you own it or not.

    Simply buy low sell high.
    Also, remember hackers can steal your coins
    and cryptocurrency CEO might go to India and died there.
     
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  5. Finally someone with common sense, knowledge of economics and the guts to speak out. Bravo. Could not have said it better

     
  6. Yes. But your ridiculous claim of anonymity just went up in smoke. Puff, gone.

     
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  7. zenlot

    zenlot

    First - I've never claimed that. Where did I say about Bitcoin and anonymity? Stick to the facts mate. Second - we already know from previous threads that you lack some fundamental knowledge around cryptos, and this again proves that. If you want to go for anonymity - don't use Coinbase(you know that, don't you?). If you want to add second layer on top of that use Wasabi, Samourai wallets. And if you really care about anonymity go with Monero, Zcash and plenty others.

    Pack your stuff and go back on educating yourself. You're still not there yet to discuss on cryptos.
     
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  8. lmfao more boomers talking about shit they dont know.

    On the daily chart its in a typical pattern, not sure what the fuss is about.

    Anonymity isnt really the driving force behind BTC - for most people. Its the decentralization that people have a hard on for.

    Keep talking it down though, so I can keep buying the dips. BTC aint going anywhere lmao.
     
  9. zenlot

    zenlot

    Exactly! Well said.
     
  10. Better said by Nouriel Roubini:

    "Decentralization is a myth. The reality is one of a massive centralization of power among miners, exchanges, developers and wealth holders, the total opposite of the lie of a decentralized system."
     
    #10     Apr 20, 2021
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