IL state income taxes to go up 75%?!?!?!?!?!

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Maverick74, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    From the Dennis Gartman Letter:

    CAN ILLINOIS REALLY BE THAT
    STUPID?: Illinois is, for all intents, insolvent. We
    can let the accountants and the lawyers take issue with
    this statement for we are not accountants here and
    certainly we are not lawyers writing TGL each day, but
    from our perspective this is our perception of that
    important Midwestern state, once our home. Spending
    has gotten out of hand in the “People’s Republic of
    Chicago,” and it is taking the rest of Illinois down with
    it. As Lily Tomlin used to day, “And that’s the truth!”
    What concerns us is Illinois’ approach to fixing the

    What concerns us is Illinois’ approach to fixing the
    problem. Rather than chopping spending on frivolous
    programs, Illinois is taking the Left’s preferred way to
    fix the problem: it is raising taxes on its citizens and it
    is raising them violently. Facing insolvency… and
    ahead of a new, more Republican legislature that was
    to be seated yesterday… the out-going state
    legislature pushed through a 67% state income tax
    increase!. The sheer audacity of that move still has us
    in awe… and shock. The measure passed the state’s
    House of Representatives a few nights ago on a 60-57
    vote and then passed through the Senate in the wee
    hours of the next morning 30-29 vote. This is utter and
    complete nonsense; this is governance of the first and
    worst type.

    We watched yesterday then as the Governor of
    Indiana, “Mitch” Daniels, openly applauded the
    decision made by the legislators to his west, knowing
    that his state shall be the beneficiary of jobs and
    businesses that shall be leaving Illinois and making
    their way to Indiana to escape this tax increase. At the
    margin, this will indeed happen, and at the upper end
    of income levels this will happen even more
    substantively. Attorneys that can do business from
    anywhere will, at the margin, leave Chicago and make
    their way to Indiana [Ed. Note: We do acknowledge
    that some may not consider this a benefit to the good
    people of Indiana.]. Accountants will do the same;
    doctors from Chicago and from downstate within miles
    of the Indiana/Illinois border will do so also.
    Manufacturing jobs on the south side of Chicago will,
    where possible, fold their operations there and make
    their way to Indiana.

    Up north, retail operations on Chicago’s north shore
    will pack up and move to the suburbs of Milwaukee in
    Wisconsin. The “arb” between real estate values in
    northern Illinois and southern Wisconsin, or between
    south side Chicago and western Indiana will narrow in
    the favour of Wisconsin and Indiana following this
    idiocy by the Illinois’ legislature.
    We are willing to bet that two years hence, even with
    the economy doing better nationally, that Illinois’ overall
    tax “take” from its citizens will be lower than where it
    was in ’10 while the tax revenues raised by Indiana
    and Wisconsin shall be higher. The “good” done by the
    legislators of Illinois for the states of Indiana and
    Wisconsin should be applauded… and will be… by the
    good people of the latter two states, and should be
    condemned… and will be… by the citizens of Illinois.
    Can Illinois really be that stupid? Apparently it can be.
     
    #141     Jan 13, 2011
  2. Not familiar with that program:confused:
     
    #142     Jan 13, 2011
  3. Roark

    Roark

    How touching. Tolerance and acceptance from a totally colorblind, non-bigot that is as humble as Texas is big. No sir, not an ounce of conceit, arrogance, or prejudice in that post.
     
    #143     Jan 13, 2011
  4. BSAM

    BSAM

    Let him rant, Roark. The little brother seems completely clueless.
     
    #144     Jan 13, 2011
  5. That's what I like about CO. I think we are pretty balanced.
     
    #145     Jan 13, 2011
  6. I hate to resurrect this thread cause its so depressing but this article will interest some, background note Ari Emanuel is a hollywood agent, (see entourage), hence the hollywood connection. don't live in Chi so doesn't effect me, looks like business as usual. If he doesn't get elected I would be shocked, although the jury is out on the resident thing.

    http://www.suntimes.com/3426204-418/chicago-emanuel-hollywood-fund-calif.html

    having trouble with the link here is the story:


    By Abdon M. PallascH

    Political Reporterapallasch@suntimes.com

    Last Modified: Jan 23, 2011 11:34AM
    Local and national hedge fund managers and movie industry moguls helped mayoral hopeful Rahm Emanuel collect more than $10 million in a mere three months for his mayoral run.

    Twenty-four supporters gave $100,000 or more to the campaign before new limits on contributions kicked in Jan. 1. Now individuals can give only $5,000 each per election cycle, so director Steven Spielberg would not be able to give the $75,000 he donated last year.

    Emanuel’s rivals for the mayor’s seat find those big-dollar contributions — especially the out-of-town ones — worrisome.

    “This ... is an obscene amount of money,” said City Clerk Miguel del Valle. “This is Chicago. We should not be picking a mayor of the city of Chicago based on what Hollywood star or what Hollywood tycoon is able to provide ... funding for the mayoral candidate.”

    Del Valle conceded Spielberg was probably not looking for a city contract.

    “We’ve raised nearly $3 million, the vast majority of our money has come from the Chicagoland area,” said former School Board Chief Gery Chico. “Rahm Emanuel has raised that much from outside the city, Hollywood.”

    But Emanuel said his successful friends will be as willing to give money to worthy causes in Chicago as they are to his campaign.

    “I am proud and happy that Steve Jobs, who runs Apple, one of the most successful CEOs, supported that campaign,” Emanuel said. “Eric Schmidt from Google, supported the candidacy, Google has a big operation in Chicago. Eli Broad, one of the big philanthropists who sponsors and funds education reform, has supported the candidacy, These are the people, on behalf of Chicago, I will be, not owing them, but some of the people I will be calling upon when I talk about a public-private partnertship, a race to the top, for Chicago for education reform, to invest in ... better quality teachers. I will be calling upon those individuals to join Chicago and invest in Chicago’s future.”

    Three quarters of his contributors are local, Emanuel said, but he could not say what percentage of the cash was from local contributors.

    Here are the members of Emanuels’ $100,000 Club:

    ■ The Chicago Mercantile Exchange: $200,000.

    ■ Haim & Cheryl Saban of Beverly Hills, Calif. Saban Entertainment. He’s the CEO of the Fox Family Network and creator of the Power Rangers movies. Combined they gave more than half-a million dollars. The campaign refunded $300,000, because, Emanuel said, “I set a cap [of $200,000 per couple] and so Haim Saban [is] somebody I will be calling upon to invest in Chicago so I can get schools to the quality the people here want.”

    ■ David and Diane Heller of Chicago. He’s the investment manager of Advisory Research: $200,000.

    The following donors gave $100,000 each:

    ■ Blue Media LLC, a Chicago-based private equity and consulting firm. Eric Lefkofsky, president.

    ■ Netscape founder James Clark, Palm Beach, Fla.

    ■ Donald Edwards, Edwards, Enterprises LLC, Chicago.

    ■ Newsweb Executive Fred Eychaner, of Chicago, a longtime donor to Democrats on the national and local level.

    ■ John Fogelman of Los Angeles, Calif., a Hollywood agent and partner of Emanuel’s brother, Ari.

    ■ Hollywood mogul David Geffen of Beverly Hills, Calif.

    ■ Retired hedge fund manager Howard Gottlieb of Evanston

    ■ Anne Dias Griffin, managing partner of Aragon Global Management of Chicago.

    ■ Kenneth Griffin, president, Citadel Investment Group of Chicago

    ■ Kristen Hayler Hertel, a Winnetka homemaker.

    ■ Matthew Hulsizer of Winnetka, Hedge fund manager, CEO of Peak6 Investments; aspiring owner of the Phoenix Coyotes.

    ■ Shahid R. Kahn of Champaign, Ill. Executive of Flex-n-gate.

    ■ David Kronfeld, president of JK&B Capital of Chicago

    ■ Howard Labkon, recycler, General Iron Industries of Chicago.

    ■ John Morgan, of Minneapolis, CEO of Winmark Corp.

    ■ Timothy Mullen of Chicago, self-employed private investor

    ■ Sean Parker, of Berkeley, Calif., a co-founder of Napster and Facebook portrayed by Justin Timberlake in The Social Network.

    ■ Michael Sacks, Managing partner of Grosvenor Capital Management of Chicago.

    ■ Sterling Fund Management LLC, of Northbrook.

    Contributing: Chris Fusco, Tim Novak
     
    #146     Jan 24, 2011
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Yeah I saw that list. They left out Donald Trump as well. I don't understand why Ken Griffin and the CME and several other big hedge fund guys are supporting Rham. There must be a lot of fear in the financial community that if an african american gets elected (Braun) that she will go after the financial industry. I just can't get over the fact that the 3rd largest city in the country has such a shitpile list of candidates to choose from for mayor. I mean f*ck. I should run. :)
     
    #147     Jan 24, 2011
  8. Bob111

    Bob111

    jew fest :p

    http://www.campaignmoney.com/ceo.asp

    did anyone tried to find out,if there is any strong correlation between companies,that contribute large amount of money to certain politician and their stock performance over let say S&P? :p
     
    #148     Jan 24, 2011
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Rham is off! Kaput! Done! Wow!
     
    #149     Jan 24, 2011
  10. to me its more about the trend where you have to have large dollars to compete, tv ads etc. He is being supported by some wealthy people, if you look closely at donations the truly wealthy support both sides, with maybe more going to the side they like. I think this trend will continue with the person with the most tv ads winning, doesn't say much about the iq of the average person in the US. I am sceptical that anyone these days can bring real change given the mired bureaucracy our govt has become.

    business plan:

    run for office raise 5 million, spend 3
    create and fund charity with remaining
    2 million called hookers and blow charity foundation..:p
     
    #150     Jan 24, 2011