I'm going to mostly cash in Long-Term portfolio

Discussion in 'Trading' started by qlai, Nov 19, 2021.

  1. I think we'll have a big rally on Monday (basically, big moneys will try to smoke the bears out of their position).
     
    #91     Dec 4, 2021
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  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    That all changed on Wednesday, when Powell turned traitor to the bulls. Dec 15th is the line in the sand. Not smelling too good.
     
    #92     Dec 4, 2021
  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    Just watched the latest All-in-Podcast on YouTube (highly recommended):

    Chamath: "Almost 500 stocks have fallen 30 to 40% in the last 30 days, but the stock market is still basically at an all times high."

    That was my point. The market may not experience a crash, but specific sectors will/did.
     
    #93     Dec 5, 2021
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  4. Have you considered hedging some of the risk with SPY puts? If you buy them with expiration date of 1 year away, and you buy them at a lower strike price than what the market is at based on how much of a draw down you feel comfortable with.
     
    #94     Dec 5, 2021
  5. qlai

    qlai

    What is the reason for hedging? If you are in a long-term portfolio and believe that markets eventually rebound, then why hedge a temporary draw-dawn (assuming you are not over-leveraged)? I am talking about personal accounts, not managing Other People Money.
     
    #95     Dec 5, 2021
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  6. Agreed. And I fucking love it.
     
    #96     Dec 5, 2021
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Probably due to growth of retail traders
     
    #97     Dec 5, 2021
  8. Zwaen

    Zwaen

    you ‘save’ money and will be able to buy more at lower prices
     
    #98     Dec 5, 2021
  9. deaddog

    deaddog

    But doesn't hedging cost you money? At best you break even.
     
    #99     Dec 5, 2021
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  10. Zwaen

    Zwaen

    Hedging can give a lower drawdown. If your profit/drawdown ratio increases you can make relatively more profits by risking more.

    Suppose your capital =100. In 1 year you can make 12 and from historic perspective you estimate your max drawdown = 50. You can set up an hedge which costs 4 and this reduces max drawdown to 33. You can use now 150 capital and earn 14 ( 12*1.5 - 4) while your risk - max drawdown - will be the same.

    But I certainly agree just blindly buying puts for indices is a losing strategy (unless you have perfect timing ability)
     
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    #100     Dec 5, 2021
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