I'm Trading an RJ O'Brien futures account, and so far have made a lot of money...

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Con1991, Aug 30, 2020.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    I don't even know where to begin on this...

    Let's start with the screenshot here...

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...ade-a-lot-of-money.349461/page-2#post-5191321

    So last price on that GC contract was 1646. So the sim engine assumes you were in at that price.

    Current bid is 2002, current ask is 2095. 2 orders for 2002, 4 orders for 2095.

    Sure, great! If you actually were in that contract long at 1646, you could fill two lots at 2002 and be happy as a clam! 350+ points of profit is a lot of money in GC.

    But...Yer not going to get a 500 lot trade at that price because, well, the bid at that price is for 2 contracts. So you will get 2 lots filled. Now you have 498 lots swinging in the breeze.

    It is really irrelevant though, because if you have enough capital in your trading account to be able to open a 500 lot order in GC (or CL), then you should just buy QQQ, sit back, and enjoy the ph3T l3Wtz over time.
     
    #31     Aug 30, 2020
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  2. DevBru

    DevBru

    500 to a 1000 contracts in one go? You will even have bad fills by doing that in the most liquid GC or CL contract.
     
    #32     Aug 30, 2020
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Hehe, it certainly helped spawn the genre of wardialing into computer systems. (I never had an acoustic modem though).
     
    #33     Aug 30, 2020
  4. maxinger

    maxinger

    me too.
    It is ENTERTAINING.
     
    #34     Aug 30, 2020
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  5. Con1991

    Con1991

    Not all in one go, no. This demo account begins with a virtual 100k. So what I did was start with say 2 or 3 contracts, bearing in mind the real life margin for outright Gold, Crude etc. Then using buying power from unrealized gains, added more and more until I hit 500 or 1000.
     
    #35     Aug 30, 2020
  6. DevBru

    DevBru

    You just said:


    Anyway, it doesn't matter, it should be obvious by now that you will not be able to replicate this with real money, not even with just a few contracts.
     
    #36     Aug 30, 2020
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    It doesn't work like that. Check it. Real life is rough.

    gcmargins2020.JPG

    Ergo, initial margin is $10,230 per contract. With a 100K account, you can have 9 contracts max on GC.
     
    #37     Aug 30, 2020
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  8. Con1991

    Con1991

    My mistake, I meant building positions upto that amount. Indeed, it seems too good to be true. I will keep learning, as even making some money out of trading is better than nothing.
     
    #38     Aug 30, 2020
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Stick with one or two micros until you know what yer up against. Then get back to us. Bye.
     
    #39     Aug 30, 2020
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  10. Tradex

    Tradex

    I like your style, using profits to add to winning positions is the fastest way to turn a modest account into a small fortune.

    But it takes guts and nerves of steel, very few traders can pyramid their winnings until the end of the trend... :cool:
     
    #40     Aug 30, 2020
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