Is it really possible to feel the markets?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by drcha, Jul 30, 2016.

  1. Simples

    Simples

    I haven't tried manually charting, but I suspect you are right about that, though I'm beginning to have quite a bit of screentime (chart analysis).

    Speaking generally here, so please don't get caught up in definitions of words and semantics:
    Our brain picks up nuances, and as you say, this can also be said to be "feeling". This is because it at first is very subjective and hidden, before you're really conscious of what and why yet. This is a type of intuition. When you investigate and find something concrete there, the intuition has been validated to some degree (though never 100%). It is often not our own conscious thought-processes that "sparked the interest" or "seeded the idea". Usually we're not really aware of the inner process, but by meditation one can raise awareness. Even research is now starting to suggest that the brain already has the answer before the decision / action / thought becomes conscious. Yes, thought usually comes last! :sneaky:

    So intuition is something all successful people use every day. Without it, we as human just wouldn't be effective, as our logical consciousness is extremely limited, prejudiced and biased, which is what makes us capable, adaptable and "conditionable" to society. It's just that it's a bad idea to use bad / non-validated intuitions. However, intuition can be used correctly, ie. as a tool to focus analysis. Without intuition or some degree of blind faith, no progress in any field, scientific or not is even possible. Those who cannot take the leap of faith, will be limiting themselves until they do. No pain, no gain. Risk-takers, takes all, etc.

    So to conclude, I believe that people who think they are very rational, are both deluding themselves and missing out in how life can be lived :strong: Just IMHO and maybe other people have other strengths that works for them, and that's fine too.

    I would never trade based just on "a feel" or unfounded intuition. What I have done, is trade based on fear, and that worked extremely bad. However, intuition has moved me through everything in life, and I suspect it is moving all people most of the time, even when we're unaware of it. Talking more generally here than just one trade or trade setup ;)
     
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    #51     Aug 2, 2016
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  2. WildBill

    WildBill

    In my opinion, intuition or "feeling" is just your subconscious bubbling up to give you a quick slap to the face to say "pay attention here...something we have processed is about is about to happen".

    I have had instances of the gut feeling happen many times in business. Every time I ignored the feeling, it was to my detriment.

    In trading, I use it as a pattern interrupt. A quick heads up to quickly reevaluate what is happening and look at all sides of the issue again.

    Your subconscious is constantly working on the mental jigsaw puzzles. You just need to pay attention when it demands it.
     
    #52     Aug 2, 2016
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  3. Jamie J.

    Jamie J.

    I wouldn't let feelings and emotions to control the trading.
     
    #53     Aug 2, 2016
  4. maybe kind of connection or sync with market, just let the market tells you where it's going in stead of predicting?
     
    #54     Aug 4, 2016
  5. dealmaker

    dealmaker



    in this interview if you go to minute 22:25 Keith McCullough says David Harding has developed a feel for the markets through charting manually ( its in the book Efficiently, Inefficient).
     
    #55     Aug 6, 2016
  6. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    I don't know if Dr. Alexander Elder made any money trading but in the below video if you go to minute 22:25 Keith McCullough points that in the book Efficiently Inefficient, David Harding says he developed a feel for the markets through manual charting.

     
    #56     Aug 6, 2016
  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I don't care who said what, this is the 21st century and I don't see why would anyone chart anything manually, unless it is some obscure instrument...
     
    #57     Aug 6, 2016
  8. Yes, it is the 21st century. But I would still rather have a barber cut my hair than a robot.

    Having been brought up posting charts manually, I feel you have a somewhat superficial view, and lean more to glancing, when seeing charts on screens. Possibly through manually posting you develop the habit of following and viewing the price movement a little more in detail.

    Before you knock it, you might want to try posting a few charts manually to see if it is of any benefit to you. Surely can't hurt.
     
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    #58     Aug 6, 2016
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  9. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    Apparently the birth of a new century has allowed traders of all kinds to be as arrogant as they please. And if you don't like it, tough. They reserve the right to be dismissive of any new information which may conflict with their view that technology is always better. You want to do things the old way? Please don't bother me.
     
    #59     Aug 6, 2016
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  10. I personally do a large amount of manual testing. I don't manually post charts, but the manual testing has allowed me to recognize potential (quantifiable) refinements within the framework of my method. I use printed out spreadsheets alongside my charting/testing platform. Seeing these numbers alongside the colors and lines on the screen allows me to have a magnified view of my method.
     
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    #60     Aug 7, 2016