Israel launches "preemptive strikes" against Iran

Discussion in 'Politics' started by insider trading, Jun 12, 2025 at 8:19 PM.

  1. Heh, Elon just turned on Starlink for all of Tehran.

    :cool:
     
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  2. If the US gets involved, all of that fire power is gone in a few hours.
     
  3. No, no need to invade. Just take out all of its military capabilities and take out the regime.
     
  4. I appreciate the tone of the post. I will do more digging.
     
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As noted numerous times before, 72% of the casualties in Gaza are military aged males and likely members of Hamas. How about Hamas stops launching missiles into Israel and stops murdering Israelis and taking them hostage in incursions. Maybe Hamas should consider stop being Iran's little proxy biatch and actual use the funds the international community gave them to help the Palestinians rather than spending it on terrorism. These simple steps could have avoided the conflict in Gaza.
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2025 at 10:39 AM
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There are reports that Israel is requesting U.S. military assistance because the IDF lacks the munitions to attack the underground nuclear facilities in Iran. They want to U.S. to attack the buried nuclear enrichment facilities with "bunker-busters" or to provide these munitions to Israel in order to do this.

    This leads to the question -- how will this entire situation play out if bunker-busters are not used on the facilities or if they prove ineffective? Does Israel launch an commando raid on these bunkers? Very risky and it would have to be a much larger operation than the Entebbe rescue in 1976. Does this entire situation end in a stalemate with Iran still holding its underground facilities intact. What is the end point?
     
  7. The Biden and Obama chickens have come home to roost.

    They funded and enabled the Iranian schemes to pretrend they were not developing a bomb when they were. DUH!

    Now, as with Ukraine, the Orange Man is being called upon to fix all that and stop the Iranians right when they are on the verge of completion. Then to demonize the Orange Man for either taking action or not taking action.

    Same with Ukraine. Biden and Obama enabled the Ruskies through show of weakness and non-response, now Orange man is supposed to make it all right again. Then the lefties will and are demonizing him for every move he makes or does not make.
     
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    As a note... on Thursday, just prior to Israel's attack, the IAEA board declared Iran to be out of compliance with their nuclear obligations.


    IAEA board declares Iran in breach of non-proliferation obligations
    https://www.reuters.com/world/china...roliferation-duties-diplomats-say-2025-06-12/
    • UN nuclear watchdog declares Iran in breach of obligations
    • Iran likely to respond with nuclear escalation
    • 19 countries in favour of resolution, three against
    VIENNA, June 12 (Reuters) - The U.N. nuclear watchdog's 35-nation Board of Governors declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations on Thursday for the first time in almost 20 years, raising the prospect of reporting it to the U.N. Security Council.

    The major step is the culmination of several festering stand-offs between the International Atomic Energy Agency and Iran that have arisen since President Donald Trump pulled the U.S. out of a nuclear deal between Tehran and major powers in 2018 during his first term, after which that deal unravelled.

    Since Iran bristles at resolutions against it and this is the most significant one in years, it is likely to respond with a nuclear escalation, as it has said it will. That could complicate the current talks between Iran and the U.S. aimed at imposing new curbs on Iran's accelerating atomic activities.

    The resolution also comes at a time of particularly heightened tension, with the U.S. pulling staff out of the Middle East, and Trump warning the region could become dangerous and saying Washington would not let Iran have nuclear weapons.

    Diplomats at the closed-door meeting said the board passed the resolution submitted by the United States, Britain, France and Germany with 19 countries in favour, 11 abstentions and three states - Russia, China and Burkina Faso - against.

    DAMNING REPORT
    The text, seen by Reuters, declares Iran in breach of its obligations given a damning report the IAEA sent to member states on May 31.

    "The Board of Governors... finds that Iran's many failures to uphold its obligations since 2019 to provide the Agency with full and timely cooperation regarding undeclared nuclear material and activities at multiple undeclared locations in Iran ... constitutes non-compliance with its obligations under its Safeguards Agreement with the Agency," the text said.

    A central issue is Iran's failure to provide the IAEA with credible explanations of how uranium traces detected at undeclared sites in Iran came to be there despite the agency having investigated the issue for years.

    The May 31 IAEA report, a board-mandated "comprehensive" account of developments, found three of the four locations "were part of an undeclared structured nuclear programme carried out by Iran until the early 2000s and that some activities used undeclared nuclear material".

    U.S. intelligence services and the IAEA have long believed Iran had a secret, coordinated nuclear weapons programme it halted in 2003, though isolated experiments continued for several years. IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi said this week the findings were broadly consistent with that.

    Iran denies ever having pursued nuclear weapons.

    While the resolution alluded to reporting Iran to the U.N. Security Council, diplomats said it would take a second resolution to send it there, as happened the last time it was declared in non-compliance in September 2005, followed by referral in February 2006.
     
  9. themickey

    themickey

  10. maxinger

    maxinger

    Within a few days, Gaza Strip was totally destroyed by Israel.
    And tens of thousands innocent people were killed.

    Soon Israel will be like Gaza Strip. Just that it will take a longer period.

    This is Karma; what goes around, comes around.