Israeli military approves plan for ‘offensive’ in Lebanon

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Nighthawk, Jun 18, 2024.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Yup. Sympathizers put their head in the sand and repeat to themselves .... they are killing "terrorists", they are killing "terrorists".
     
    #81     Jun 21, 2024
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    ACTUALLY that's the pattern with the [USa] talking snake media;
    remember CNN was trying to help the enemies of USa win the operation Desert Storm??
    General Gyp, NVA boasted, we had the media on our side in Vietnam.
    TOO bad Col Kadaffy duck of Libya had one if his kids killed with the USa smart bomb strike.:caution::caution:
     
    #82     Jun 21, 2024
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  3. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    That's not true. It's been given up more land than it supposedly "grabbed". It got out of southern Lebanon, it gave up Golan Heights after conquering it. All those things, Muslim countries do not give credit to Israel for. All it sees is Israel's "land grabbing", self-centered victim mentality, exactly as I described before.

    Biden's not preaching anything. Biden is just weak! Look how it withdrew from Afghanistan. It was shameful, a total disservice to the men and women from all countries who gave up their lives fighting against the terrorist group Taliban there.
     
    #83     Jun 21, 2024
  4. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Israel, as it stands right now, already has sea access to the Mediterranean Sea. Tel Aviv is right by the sea. LOL WHY would it want a tiny little strip of land Gaza? The only reason why it wants Gaza is 1) so it can have a bit of territorial integrity as I discussed in another post before in that it won't be under siege by the same country on both sides. Israel, with Gaza Strip belonging to Palestine, is the ONLY country in the world that is surrounded by the same country on BOTH sides of its land, basically under siege by that country and its surrounding countries 24/7. That is unacceptable to any country in the world. With Gaza strip belonging to Israel, it can at least defend its border on the Egypt's side better and just need to worry about its border with Palestine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Occupied_Palestinian_Territories.jpg and 2) to uproot Hamas as Gaza Strip is now known as the base for Hamas. Hamas, with what it did, is a terrorist group and cannot be allowed to exist. It needs to be gone.

    There have been several land exchange proposals presented to Palestine in exchange for Gaza, this tiny strip of land but they have all been refused by Palestine so here we are, stuck.
     
    #84     Jun 21, 2024
  5. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Have to disagree with you a bit there, overnight, block/ignore especially ignore is the best feature on this site. Without it especially the ignore feature, this forum would not be tolerable for me. I don't usually use block except under very extreme circumstances (like against your option idol) but ignore is just indispensable otherwise trolls are just way too annoying.
     
    #85     Jun 21, 2024
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    ISRAEL 's right ,''tough neighborhood'';
    1,000 die [YTD, Egypt ]in pilgrimage to Mecca.
    THATS up from 777 just in Arabia., some time ago.
    Tough neighbor hood:caution::caution:[ABC News today]
     
    #86     Jun 21, 2024
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  7. themickey

    themickey

    Yup, incoming lies as per usual.

    Golan Heights
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    Map of the Golan Heights since 1974
    Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria in the 1967 Six-Day War. A ceasefire was signed on 11 June 1967 and the Golan Heights came under Israeli military administration.[35] Syria rejected UNSC Resolution 242 of 22 November 1967, which called for the return of Israeli-occupied State territories in exchange for peaceful relations. Israel had accepted Resolution 242 in a speech to the Security Council on 1 May 1968. In March 1972, Syria "conditionally" accepted Resolution 242,[citation needed] and in May 1974, the Agreement on Disengagement between Israel and Syria was signed.

    In the Yom Kippur War of 1973, Syria attempted to recapture the Golan Heights militarily, but the attempt was unsuccessful. Israel and Syria signed a ceasefire agreement in 1974 that left almost all the Heights under Israeli control, while returning a narrow demilitarized zone to Syrian control. A United Nations observation force was established in 1974 as a buffer between the sides.[36] By Syrian formal acceptance of UN Security Council Resolution 338,[37] which set out the cease-fire at the end of the Yom Kippur War, Syria also accepted Resolution 242.[38]

    On 14 December 1981, Israel passed the Golan Heights Law, extending Israeli administration and law to the territory. Israel has expressly avoided using the term "annexation" to describe the change of status. However, the UN Security Council has rejected the de facto annexation in UNSC Resolution 497, which declared it as "null and void and without international legal effect",[39] and consequently continuing to regard the Golan Heights as Israeli-occupied territory. The measure has also been criticized by other countries, either as illegal or as not being helpful to the Middle East peace process.[citation needed]

    Syria wants the return of the Golan Heights, while Israel has maintained a policy of "land for peace" based on Resolution 242. The first high-level public talks aimed at a resolution of the Syria–Israel conflict were held at and after the multilateral Madrid Conference of 1991. Throughout the 1990s several Israeli governments negotiated with Syria's president Hafez Al-Assad. While serious progress was made, they were unsuccessful.

    In 2004, there were 34 settlements in the Golan Heights, populated by around 18,000 people.[40] Today, an estimated 20,000 Israeli settlers and 20,000 Syrians live in the territory.[36] All inhabitants are entitled to Israeli citizenship, which would entitle them to an Israeli driver's license and enable them to travel freely in Israel.[citation needed] The non-Jewish residents, who are mostly Druze, have nearly all declined to take Israeli citizenship.[36][41]

    In the Golan Heights there is another area occupied by Israel, namely the Shebaa farms. Syria and Lebanon have claimed that the farms belong to Lebanon and in 2007 a UN cartographer came to the conclusion that the Shebaa farms do actually belong to Lebanon (contrary to the belief held by Israel). UN then said that Israel should relinquish the control of this area.[42]
    WIKI
     
    #87     Jun 21, 2024
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    You need to learn how to use mental ignores, like how we use mental stops in trading. Same damned thing.
     
    #88     Jun 21, 2024
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  9. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    I don't know use mental stops in trading. I either use stop or I don't but if I do use stops, it's a hard-coded stop that I put in my trading. So much easier if I just put people on "Ignore"; I do not see any of their crap at all! Why waste my brain cells and my eyesight to still have to read those garbage and then have to make an effort to ignore them when I can just ignore them by not having to see their garbage in the first place by putting them on "Ignore" right from the beginning?

    It's efficiency my friend, efficiency!! Life is short, be efficient!
     
    #89     Jun 22, 2024
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  10. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    I am confused:

    Early Jewish settlement

    In 1884, there were still open stretches of uncultivated land between villages in the lower Golan, but by the mid-1890s most were owned and cultivated.[68] Some land had been purchased in the Golan and Hawran by Zionist associations based in Romania, Bulgaria, the United States and England, in the late 19th century and early 20th century.[69] In 1880, Laurence Oliphant published Eretz ha-Gilad (The Land of Gilead), which described a plan for large-scale Jewish settlement in the Golan.[70]

    In the winter of 1885, members of the Old Yishuv in Safed formed the Beit Yehuda Society and purchased 15,000 dunams of land from the village of Ramthaniye in the central Golan.[71] Due to financial hardships and the long wait for a kushan (Ottoman land deed) the village, Golan be-Bashan, was abandoned after a year.[citation needed]

    Soon afterwards, the society regrouped and purchased 2,000 dunams of land from the village of Bir e-Shagum on the western slopes of the Golan.[72] The village they established, Bnei Yehuda, existed until 1920.[73][74] The last families left in the wake of the Passover riots of 1920.[71] In 1944 the JNF bought the Bnei Yehuda lands from their Jewish owners, but a later attempt to establish Jewish ownership of the property in Bir e-Shagum through the courts was not successful.[73]

    Between 1891 and 1894, Baron Edmond James de Rothschild purchased around 150,000 Dunams of land in the Golan and the Hawran for Jewish settlement.[71] Legal and political permits were secured and ownership of the land was registered in late 1894.[71] The Jews also built a road stretching from Lake Hula to Muzayrib.[73]

    The Agudat Ahim society, whose headquarters were in Yekaterinoslav, Russia, acquired 100,000 dunams of land in several locations in the districts of Fiq and Daraa. A plant nursery was established and work began on farm buildings in Djillin.[71]

    A village called Tiferet Binyamin was established on lands purchased from Saham al-Jawlan by the Shavei Zion Association based in New York,[69] but the project was abandoned after a year when the Turks issued an edict in 1896 evicting the 17 non-Turkish families. A later attempt to resettle the site with Syrian Jews who were Ottoman citizens also failed.[75]

    Between 1904 and 1908, a group of Crimean Jews settled near the Arab village of Al-Butayha in the Bethsaida Valley, initially as tenants of a Kurdish proprietor with the prospects of purchasing the land, but the arrangement faltered.[76][77]

    Jewish settlement in the region dwindled over time, due to Arab hostility, Turkish bureaucracy, disease and economic difficulties.[78] In 1921–1930, during the French Mandate, the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PICA) obtained the deeds to the Rothschild estate and continued to manage it, collecting rents from the Arab peasants living there.[73]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights

    All those land bought by the Jewish people, where are they located exactly in Golan Heights? What happened to those land? These are the land that should rightfully belong to the Jewish people, they were abandoned due to Arab hostility (as what we see today) but that doesn't mean they don't belong to the Jewish people anymore.
     
    #90     Jun 22, 2024