Judge in Chauvin trial calls out Rep. Waters for 'abhorrent' comment

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kmgilroy89, Apr 19, 2021.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    It's amazing how many people on the board are suddenly legal scholars.
     
    #21     Apr 20, 2021
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Hostile or argumentative is not violence.

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    #22     Apr 20, 2021
  3. The law:
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19
    "Subd. 2.Unintentional murders.
    Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

    (1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or

    (2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, "order for protection" includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders."



    As the law reads he is guilty of second-degree murder. He did cause the death of Chauvin while committing a felony offense (3rd degree felony assault):
    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.223#:~:text=Whoever assaults a victim under,more than $10,000, or both.
    "Subdivision 1.Substantial bodily harm.

    Whoever assaults another and inflicts substantial bodily harm may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both."


    In a reasonable person's mind, choking somebody for 9.5 minutes with your knee on their neck, pressing them against he pavement fits this definition as it does substantial bodily harm. It hurts vital organs such as the lungs by restricting oxygen.
     
    #23     Apr 20, 2021
  4. Let's pretend he was having an OD (no evidence of) while Chauvin was committing a life-threatening felony level of assault against Floyd. Committing life-threatening felony assault on somebody while they're ODing is still murder. Nelson flat out lied yesterday when he said the acts of Chauvin had to be the sole cause of Floyd's death. This is not true according MN statute. If you shoot somebody in the head you don't get to claim he took fentanyl or there was carbon monoxide in the atmosphere. The same is the true when you choke somebody for 9.5 minutes.
     
    #24     Apr 20, 2021
  5. elderado

    elderado

    Oh, man, you're just lost. Completely lost. Let it go an move on with your life.
     
    #25     Apr 20, 2021
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  6. That's all you got? No rebuttal of substance?
     
    #26     Apr 20, 2021
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    As you can see by your own citing of the law, the standard of second degree murder has not been met by the prosecution's case.
     
    #27     Apr 20, 2021
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  8. Why specifically do you say that? As I read the law it does. I explain how. A life-threatening felony level of assault was happening to him as he died. It also rises to the level of 3rd degree felony assault as I explained above. If the cop wasn't assaulting him and just let him lay there, OD, and die, that would be negligence. That would be manslaughter.
     
    #28     Apr 20, 2021
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    There of course was no felony assault committed whatsoever. You're reaching because you want a certain outcome and you are not able to discern between legal and illegal due to your emotions. Leftists always do this.
     
    #29     Apr 20, 2021
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  10. I don't believe I'm reaching for an outcome. I don't care what the left or right thinks. I've been bashed by both sides on here, especially on any issues involving racial tensions. Are you an objective/independent thinker that ever disagrees with the right on here? I never see it. My question for you is, how does pinning somebody against the pavement with your neck on their knee for 9.5 minutes not rise to the level of third degree felony assault?
     
    #30     Apr 20, 2021